From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 19:53:59 +0200 Organization: Informatimago Message-ID: <87y56o3fpk.fsf@informatimago.com> References: <523ED74D.4030205@online.de> <87ioxs4zc9.fsf@informatimago.com> <87k3i8vj93.fsf@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1379872555 24127 80.91.229.3 (22 Sep 2013 17:55:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 17:55:55 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 22 19:55:59 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VNnsz-0000Xq-G3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 19:55:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36146 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VNnsz-0000ux-5d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 13:55:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37669) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VNnsr-0000qx-Jr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 13:55:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VNnsm-00025z-AX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 13:55:49 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:49205) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VNnsm-00025u-2u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 13:55:44 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VNnsj-0000SI-Iu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 19:55:41 +0200 Original-Received: from 90.24.176.106 ([90.24.176.106]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 19:55:41 +0200 Original-Received: from pjb by 90.24.176.106 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 19:55:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 90.24.176.106 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:N2JiYTFiYmY4ZGVmMGU0NmNjZTY2OWVhMzY3Y2FjZDY1NjZiM2QwYQ== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163553 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > "Pascal J. Bourguignon" writes: >> That's funny. I've switched to emacs after having spent a lot of time >> with other editors of all kinds, and notably before emacs a long period >> with vi, and I had no such problem in starting wiht emacs. >> >> I must be a genius, or is it really that the level has dropped as much >> as it is told to have dropped? > > By "level", do you mean the level of intelligence or something? > > Is being able to adapt to obscure keybindings really how you would > measure it? Yes, intelligence involves adaptation to changing conditions and learning of new tricks. -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/