From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unibyte characters, strings, and buffers Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 22:04:40 +0900 Message-ID: <87y4zmlg2f.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <831txozsqa.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppl7y30l.fsf@gnu.org> <87r45nouvx.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8361myyac6.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9capqfr.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <5335C336.3080108@dancol.org> <87mwg9nti0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83ioqxdzax.fsf@gnu.org> <87ha6hngak.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83k3bacs02.fsf@gnu.org> <87ppl1n2k2.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837g79cc66.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhvomkfb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83ioqrbr0l.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1396532144 15840 80.91.229.3 (3 Apr 2014 13:35:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 13:35:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dancol@dancol.org, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 03 15:35:37 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WVhLW-0003al-U6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 15:06:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43919 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WVhLW-0008Ei-FW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 09:06:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46458) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WVhLK-0007pH-Dy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 09:06:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WVhLC-0006Cm-Qx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 09:06:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:48217) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WVhL2-0005gM-8v; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 09:05:48 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF0997080B; Thu, 3 Apr 2014 22:04:40 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B85991A28DC; Thu, 3 Apr 2014 22:04:40 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <83ioqrbr0l.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" 2a0f42961ed4 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:171270 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > The main issue here, at least for me is, once Mr. X _did_ describe > such an implementation, is it OK for someone else, who is not > familiar with the actual code, to re-implement it from scratch, and > then submit it to Emacs as their own, under assigned copyright. My > conclusion from everything I know and read is that YES, it is OK. I'd risk it. But it's not the classic "clean-room" reimplementation where the behavior of the original in response to various inputs (vs. "internal structure" etc) is used as a specification (vs. "design") for the clone. For Emacs, you'd have to ask an FSF lawyer.