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From: Nic Ferrier <nferrier@ferrier.me.uk>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: package and testing rant (was Re: package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:13:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y4rhirsa.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvsihpiu0p.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:26:00 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes:

>> - autoloads missing (only really fixed by package-install-ing)
>> - expected depend missing (can be fixed by requiring the source in fresh
>>   emacs)
>
> Neither of this is affected by the "(build)" step of GNU ELPA, AFAICT.

That's right. But because the build isn't exposed people don't test
their packages and this bit is never tested.

As Philip said, when he's building software he'll just edit and eval in
his emacs. In the normal way (me too btw).

But this isn't smalltalk. When you're done you can't just drop what you
did into elpa.git and expect it to work. You have to test the
package-installed version in a new emacs session with no config because
that's the only time you have byte compilation, autoload generation and
fresh dependency analysis.


Nic



  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-11 17:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-07 13:45 package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 14:12 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-07 19:50   ` joakim
2014-11-08  4:27     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-10 14:55   ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-10 17:46     ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-10 20:27       ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-10 21:49         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-10 22:02           ` package and testing rant (was Re: package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal) Nic Ferrier
2014-11-10 23:24             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11  2:53               ` Drew Adams
2014-11-11 11:41               ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 16:03                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-11 17:17                   ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 17:20                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11 17:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-11 16:24                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11 17:15                   ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 15:57               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-11 17:18                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11 17:52                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-11 18:04                     ` David Kastrup
2014-11-12  3:20                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-12  6:48                         ` David Kastrup
2014-11-11 17:27                 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 18:20               ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-12 16:13                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 17:00                   ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-12 17:51                   ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-12 20:34                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 21:39                       ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-12 22:40                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 23:01                           ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-12 23:31                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-13  1:09                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-13  5:06                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-13 14:59                               ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-15 17:09                             ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-15 18:20                               ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-16  3:49                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-13  8:18                           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-11-13 10:53                         ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-13 14:54                           ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-14 11:04                             ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-14 22:56                               ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-12 18:15                   ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-12 22:21                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-13 20:21                       ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-12 13:05               ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-11 13:30             ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-11 14:12               ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 16:26                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11 17:13                   ` Nic Ferrier [this message]
2014-11-12 16:14                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 17:02                       ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-12 17:21                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-10 21:37       ` package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11  1:29         ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-11  2:26           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11  2:59             ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-11  3:55               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11 12:44                 ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-11 13:31                   ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 11:31             ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 16:22               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-11 17:10                 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 19:36                   ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-11 20:40                     ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-11 21:53                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 22:17                         ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-12 22:59                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 23:26                             ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-13  0:21                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 20:00 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-08  4:29   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-08 23:18     ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-09  3:17       ` Stefan Monnier

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