From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: wsdl test files and licensing Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 14:42:35 +0100 Message-ID: <87y4rg4jsk.fsf@thinkpad-t440p.tsdh.org> References: <87oasc62mu.fsf@gmx.de> <87oascr3es.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415799788 12735 80.91.229.3 (12 Nov 2014 13:43:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 13:43:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 12 14:43:03 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XoYCJ-0007AK-K8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 14:42:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54741 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoYCJ-0000MH-8q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:42:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57595) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoYCB-0000HU-WD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:42:57 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoYC6-0007G3-HF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:42:51 -0500 Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.64.15]:51021) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoYC0-0007Dz-Cg; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:42:40 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EBF1A857D; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 14:42:38 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uni-koblenz.de Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (deliver.uni-koblenz.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IXss3juzlZIq; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 14:42:38 +0100 (CET) X-CHKRCPT: Envelopesender noch tsdh@gnu.org Original-Received: from thinkpad-t440p.tsdh.org (dhcp218.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.71.218]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5F8C11A8581; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 14:42:36 +0100 (CET) Mail-Followup-To: David Kastrup , emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87oascr3es.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (David Kastrup's message of "Wed, 12 Nov 2014 13:47:55 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 141.26.64.15 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176806 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: >> As test data, there are several *.wsdl files as well as soap request >> examples (these are *.xml files). All of them are not licensed, >> except Debbugs.wsdl taken from the GNU ELPA debbugs package. > > What does "are not licensed" mean? If it means "there is no license > to distribute them", obviously we cannot distribute them. That's a > no-brainer. I guess it means that it's a wild collection of files from unknown sources with no explicit license header. You can also search for WSDL files. http://www.webservicex.net/globalweather.asmx?WSDL http://webservices.amazon.com/AWSECommerceService/AWSECommerceService.wsdl Both don't declare any license. > For test data, it might be possible (if one cannot get the copyright > holders to sign a copyright assignment) to get a long with a copyright > disclaimer where the copyright holder will disclaim all copyright > interest in the respective files. Again, this needs individual > approval by Richard/clerk. Would it help not to distribute such test data with emacs itself but to have a script or the test itself download it if it's not already there? I mean, those WSDL files describe (commercial) web services, so if I wanted to use those services I'd need to download the files and analyze them anyway. Thus downloading them for running tests seems to be a legit thing to do. Bye, Tassilo