From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: package and testing rant (was Re: package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 18:20:47 +0000 Message-ID: <87y4rcjpfk.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> References: <87a943umku.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ppcvm7fj.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87vbmndk46.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87wq72ls2h.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87k332lnn3.fsf_-_@ferrier.me.uk> <878ujhtx89.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <8761eki9ym.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87sihogkt0.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87bnocgh1r.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <85r3x4ie5v.fsf@stephe-leake.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416075772 2564 80.91.229.3 (15 Nov 2014 18:22:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 18:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stephen Leake Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 15 19:22:45 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xphzg-0006kh-QJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 19:22:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41528 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xphzg-0005Py-7E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 13:22:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34460) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XphzY-0005Pq-E3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 13:22:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xphxq-00056q-0M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 13:21:15 -0500 Original-Received: from static.17.66.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.66.17]:58121 helo=po1.ferrier.me.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xphxp-00056X-O0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 13:20:49 -0500 Original-Received: from nicferrier-dell-xps (140.35.155.90.in-addr.arpa [90.155.35.140]) by po1.ferrier.me.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 48303AC0AD0; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 19:39:26 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from nicferrier-XPS13-9333 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nicferrier-dell-xps (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A9BE6BA00; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 18:20:47 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <85r3x4ie5v.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (Stephen Leake's message of "Sat, 15 Nov 2014 11:09:32 -0600") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 78.46.66.17 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:177223 Archived-At: Stephen Leake writes: > Nic Ferrier writes: > >> Stefan Monnier writes: >> >>>> I mean: You're doing something very weird. Why? >>> >>> I guess I just don't know what's weird about it. >> >> Maybe you don't know enough about software ecosystems? > > Nic; instead of casting vague accusations/assumptions, please explain > more clearly what your favorite alternative to the current GNU ELPA > system is. No? That's not the point. I've provided a critique of what the problems are with the current approach. Apparently people don't believe me or think I am exaggerating. So we should probably just wait to see. Nic