From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rasmus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Generating the ChangeLog files from the commit messages Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:38:50 +0100 Message-ID: <87y4r7edhx.fsf@gmx.us> References: <21606.10799.112099.788101@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <1753218.Ot8JCqssfN@descartes> <546AABCF.8030705@cs.ucla.edu> <9xioico2nm.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87zjbntvfz.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416389973 5598 80.91.229.3 (19 Nov 2014 09:39:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 09:39:33 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 19 10:39:24 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr1jQ-0003Gw-9S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:39:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57218 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr1jP-0000Yo-Uw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 04:39:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44484) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr1jF-0000Y4-Rb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 04:39:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr1j9-0007Q3-Qx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 04:39:13 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:55339) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr1j9-0007Pk-K6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 04:39:07 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr1j4-00037S-4Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:39:02 +0100 Original-Received: from tsn85-159-237-4.dyn.nltelcom.net ([85.159.237.4]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:39:02 +0100 Original-Received: from rasmus by tsn85-159-237-4.dyn.nltelcom.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:39:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: tsn85-159-237-4.dyn.nltelcom.net Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEUbEBlfUk6HeW+Uhnqs n5HXzbyzlR0HAAAACXBIWXMAAABIAAAASABGyWs+AAACOUlEQVQ4EXXBQZajRhAFwJ9MHyCz0Owp QPsGin0LMveWVP/+Vxkkjcct+zkC3wn+hyn+QzKsKdUE7yTqeFnjvgxf+E5G1gjeB68b3qw5SJYl WCfFP356t5KsJUhm/NFE7Dy483DP+JvzoTqdXoNu+I1kkKx19thW7oYnafnkXsu+p5H0DgdxDz7U fi7O+Uyyw6HxtfJp6xdL20DyjsPgweAWrL7sJtYWsiYAMoQHO6OPUbcxWwmy4jAy7p6b2Nuo5GQe ZAXQRK1b3CRtVsjY+1RIdoB47Mv6qRiHhbXuZinIDhB3L24KOW0RdZ5+9CQ7yBisvu2mSHn1uGQ0 ZFU0fQmvaT6rIA9L3ExlJTMkOXemfLIsNrW+T5JG1hFoRu4cPs/Lln9cW/fNuPKaADv7XLKdnbf1 koKcufotA2lIfVZZa3X2Q/CeuWfLwKlYMbWVfS5FxRRUmAK5WLakHhezcVIo7oDhcL6MZmnzSaVp iwH2CcWhnUTl5zYLxMw3AB0eJBlg7W0fslhiVRggAGTuAE2zT1vCiVUReBk6ADJe1VRO5GTs8NQo gGZTE1hx95ZfeBJAxRQikOJ+H3nFiwICQKDJD337hT8UgKgN7uQlKRQPihexxSPoHf7F0uIRe+kg +E4kDcX3bIp3opaG5XAFoPjGzIZlzvmsEBwEiidRs8X77uOK30TxopbKArBTvBO1NEI/boJ39gAI FS+tiSkAUVWI4uMvvJwW2ycAjeCgIip4Gav7BRCB4OUX/82ILRRI/usAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/24.4.51 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:AH0p+RhwhkLtKQqx+Dln3hxS8hM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:177726 Archived-At: Hi, Bastien writes: > In Org, we generate the ChangeLog from the Git history and I often > wish we started by having a proper ChangeLog first. Interesting. > If ChangeLog files are generated, maintainers will have to edit lots > of contributed commits manually before applying them -- this will be > boring. As a offender I have observed that if a patch does not meet the commit message/ChangeLog requirements one will (often) be asked to resubmit following those prescriptions. What are the types of mistakes you see? Could they be fixed by tougher reviews? Or is the issue with forgetful people with commit access? —Rasmus -- . . . The proofs are technical in nature and provides no real understanding