From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: XKCD/541 compliance, anyone?
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2015 11:09:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y4plcx3d.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvlhll96pc.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.help@gnu.org>
On 2015-01-02, at 05:07, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>>> Beware: syntax-propertize-function might already be in use, in which
>>> case you should probably use add-function to combine the two.
>> Hm. My Emacs (24.3) doesn't have anything called add-function. I
>> checked on the interwebs, and it seems it's part of the new advice
>> system. I'll have to upgrade finally.
>
> Tho you probably only need this syntax-propertize-smileys thingy for
> modes which don't use syntax-propertize-function yet, so maybe
> add-function is not really necessary.
Not sure if I understand.
I don't need my smileys thing for programming modes – here, smileys
should appear only in strings/comments, and they don't do any harm
there. Where I need it is mainly text, org, message and (la)tex modes.
>> My question: wouldn't it be reasonable to change
>> syntax-propertize-function into a /list/ of functions?
>
> At this point, it wouldn't be reasonable, no: add-function works as well
> already. Also, combining various functions there doesn't work quite as
> easily as it sounds. For example, in your case, it works OK to put your
> function before the major mode's function, but doing it the other way
> around wouldn't always work right. For more general
> syntax-propertize-functions, you can't just run them in turn.
OK.
>> I checked it, and I see it's even better, it will make it buffer-local.
>> Again: very handy. BTW: do I guess correctly that the reason that
>> parse-sexp-lookup-properties is nil by default (and the reason for its
>> existence in the first place) is performance issues? If yes, is the
>> difference between having it nil and t substantial on modern hardware?
>
> No, the difference is negligible. It's a historical left-over.
That's what I thought, more or less.
>>>> However, it did not work (in text mode); my make-smileys-punctuation
>>>> seems not even to get called.
>>> Right, syntax-propertization is done lazily, so if nothing calls
>>> syntax-propertize, then that's that. Usually the main triggers for
>>> syntax-propertize are syntax-ppss and font-lock, but neither is likely
>>> to be used in text-mode. So you'll probably need to arrange for font-lock
>>> to be enabled *and* for font-lock-keywords-only not to be set to t.
>> Well, I did not understand everything you wrote here. I guess I will
>> just have to RTFM; I vaguely remember reading about "lazy font-lock" 15
>> years ago,
>
> This is unrelated. I used "lazy" in the general sense of "do things
> as late as possible".
I see.
>>> Probably because font-lock-keywords-only is set to t, so font-lock
>>> doesn't end up calling syntax-ppss.
>> Yes it is, though I don't (yet) understand what this means. See above.
>
> This has to do with the way font-lock handles strings and comments
> separately from other highlighting. In message-mode, this special
> strings-and-comments highlighting is disabled, yet, that's the one that
> normally triggers syntax-propertize.
Again: I'll have to read the manual.
> You could also use something like
>
> (defun my-call-syntax-propertize (limit)
> (syntax-propertize limit)
> (goto-char limit)
> nil)
> (font-lock-add-keywords nil '((my-call-syntax-propertize)))
This idea might come in handy, since the next step is to mark smileys
with gray;-).
>> Thank you so much!
>
> My pleasure,
>
> Stefan
Thanks again!
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-02 10:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-12-04 21:16 XKCD/541 compliance, anyone? Marcin Borkowski
2014-12-04 22:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-04 23:10 ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-12-05 22:33 ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-12-05 23:41 ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-05 23:48 ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-12-31 9:19 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-01-01 17:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-01 21:41 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-01-02 4:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-02 10:09 ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2015-01-03 1:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-07 21:55 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-01-02 14:39 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-01-03 1:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-07 22:09 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-01-07 22:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-08 1:09 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-01-08 1:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-08 2:37 ` Marcin Borkowski
[not found] ` <mailman.17449.1420684651.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-01-08 3:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-08 14:10 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-03-15 1:40 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-03-15 18:39 ` Stefan Monnier
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