From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Contributing LLVM.org patches to gud.el Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 17:27:55 +0100 Message-ID: <87y4o4pg50.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87mw4rxkzv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4oavxcy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d25juy8m.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83iofa8lu2.fsf@gnu.org> <87wq3qrvjz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83386d92ox.fsf@gnu.org> <874mqtsoqy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87mw4lnked.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83egpw78tp.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423672097 17113 80.91.229.3 (11 Feb 2015 16:28:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:28:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 11 17:28:07 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YLa8w-0005lJ-MP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 17:28:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45821 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLa8w-0005o8-6y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:28:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60117) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLa8r-0005lZ-RY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:27:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLa8q-0004bI-S9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:27:57 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56626) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLa8q-0004bE-ON for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:27:56 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35569 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLa8q-0006Xf-7Y; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:27:56 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C0C48E0D97; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 17:27:55 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:21:35 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182904 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> I really doubt that people prefer using a debugger that lacks basic >> features, like remote debugging, even on GNU/Linux, more so on *BSD. >> If they do, perhaps printf debugging is a contender as well? >> And what about all the advanced features, like fork-following, JIT >> debugging, probe points, reverse execution, record and replay, etc.? > > Just as a data point: I have never used any of those features you mention. Reverse execution is actually pretty useful when the place of a segfault does not really retain a lot of information about its genesis. Little surprisingly, it depends on recorded execution. -- David Kastrup