From: Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net>
To: 19865@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#19865: tar-untar-buffer: should honor default-directory
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 19:12:04 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y4o09ukb.fsf@violet.siamics.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8361b4wd8d.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 14 Feb 2015 20:37:54 +0200")
>>>>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>>>>> From: Ivan Shmakov Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 18:12:47 +0000
>>>>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
[…]
>> I will surely respect any NAKs from those in charge of the given
>> package, or Emacs as a whole (as per the Savannah project page.)
> The file says emacs-devel is in charge, so I'm not sure who you mean
> here.
--cut: https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/emacs/ --
Project Admins:
- Stefan Monnier
- Eli Zaretskii
- Richard M. Stallman
- Miles Bader
- Francesco Potortì
- Kim F. Storm
--cut: https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/emacs/ --
>>> I cannot force anyone here to do anything, I don’t have that power.
>> We’re all volunteers here, yes. But you can – and, I’d argue,
>> should – /prevent/ the use of the Emacs community resources for the
>> purposes contrary to the advancement of the project itself.
> I don't know what that means in practice.
In practice, that means that those who keep interfering with the
community efforts risk losing their commit access. (Or “posting
access” to the mailing list, just like it happened to one of the
bug-hurd@ participants something like a decade back. Etc.)
> I have my opinions and views, but who is to say whether they are or
> aren't contrary to the advancement?
It’s up to those who’re in charge to decide. I can understand
the lack of interest in holding such a responsibility, but the
problem is: I don’t want it, either.
Still, I have no means to /force/ you to review my submissions.
But once you did – I won’t use community resources against your
/objections./ (As opposed to, say, lack of appreciation – I can
accept that perfectly well.)
(In short: the golden rule of volunteer-driven projects is that
the leaders tell us not what we /do,/ but what we /do not./)
[…]
>> And I’d still like to hear why you think that tar-untar-buffer
>> /must/ use the value of default-directory local to a buffer /other/
>> than the one the user called this command from.
> Because it's simpler, and makes the code easier to follow.
My former patch expands the code by a single line; my latter one
adds two more for a comment (while removing one level of nesting
from a fair chunk of the code at the same time.) How is that
making it any harder to follow?
Besides, as I’ve already noted, it does make tar-untar-buffer
more consistent with both the rest of tar-mode.el, /and/ the
rest of Emacs. I thus believe that a single extra LoC is fully
justified here.
--
FSF associate member #7257 np. Cherry Blossom — David Modica B6A0 230E 334A
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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-14 11:31 bug#19865: tar-untar-buffer: should honor default-directory Ivan Shmakov
2015-02-14 12:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-14 12:27 ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-02-14 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-14 12:47 ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-02-14 13:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-14 13:34 ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-02-14 14:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-14 15:16 ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-02-14 14:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-14 15:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-16 1:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-16 15:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-16 19:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-16 19:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-16 23:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-17 3:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-18 3:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-17 17:03 ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-02-17 18:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-17 5:25 ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-02-17 15:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-17 18:05 ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-02-14 15:07 ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-02-14 16:27 ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-02-16 1:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-16 5:24 ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-02-16 7:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-16 8:55 ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-02-16 14:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-23 11:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-25 17:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-02-14 15:57 ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-02-14 16:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-14 17:32 ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-02-14 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-14 18:12 ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-02-14 18:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-14 19:12 ` Ivan Shmakov [this message]
2015-02-14 19:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-14 19:42 ` Ivan Shmakov
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