From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A protest against pcase, pcase-let, pcase-let* Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 21:47:53 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87y4lqp5py.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <20150331180029.GF2871@acm.fritz.box> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429321698 9884 80.91.229.3 (18 Apr 2015 01:48:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 01:48:18 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 18 03:48:10 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YjHrd-0002fQ-EM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 03:48:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44224 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YjHrc-0002YN-QV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 21:48:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39408) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YjHrY-0002Xs-9W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 21:48:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YjHrT-0004YP-1s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 21:48:04 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:42403) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YjHrS-0004YF-RS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 21:47:58 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YjHrR-0002X3-73 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 03:47:57 +0200 Original-Received: from c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([98.229.61.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 03:47:57 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 03:47:57 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:K6qTYvDsWhDXAsHlpce+2PepwAc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185548 Archived-At: On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:29:20 -0500 "John Wiegley" wrote: >>>>>> Alan Mackenzie writes: >> Can we please have a moratorium on the use of pcase, etc.? Their use is >> gradually proliferating through Emacs, yet they are not documented. JW> -1 from me. It may not be well documented, but it's certainly useful for JW> package authors. Should we be restricted because others are having difficulty JW> figuring out how to use them? Like John, I would prefer to keep using pcase. I'm a fan of the tool. I would love the manual to dedicate more space to it, and feel that I've only grazed the surface. Perhaps a whole chapter, since pcase (understandably) departs from so many of the typical Emacs programming patterns. And that chapter can mention Shadchen and whatever else is pertinent. Ted