From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 01:58:12 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87y4kk86i3.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87fv77barj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zj5fgpd8.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <83h9rnp0yy.fsf@gnu.org> <83zj5enihg.fsf@gnu.org> <554EFEFD.6090908@gmail.com> <833834o4rv.fsf@gnu.org> <834mnjm73d.fsf@gnu.org> <838ucpgepi.fsf@gnu.org> <83h9rbfegu.fsf@gnu.org> <83bnhieztw.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1432079720 2719 80.91.229.3 (19 May 2015 23:55:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 23:55:20 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 20 01:55:18 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YurLy-00086K-Mj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 May 2015 01:55:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49354 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YurLy-0008AQ-0n for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 19:55:18 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 54 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: feB02bRejf23rfBm51Mt7Q.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:dXl/PSQ9e0UPvNVnvLU4WoZBrao= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:212205 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:104489 Archived-At: Vaidheeswaran C writes: > 1. An Emacs Primer for Common Text Editing Tasks. > 2. An Emacs Primer for Programmers. > 3. An Emacs Primer for Thesis Writers. > 4. An Emacs Primer for The Network Savvy. Aha, it is the old "suite" idea (as in a card deck)! Here is how I would organize that material: (1) should be in the manual - contribute there if you think it is insufficient. It is the foundation of Emacs (a text editor) and by extension all of computing. (2) should be in the manual, save for some creative methods and habits that perhaps aren't there - which is rather strategies how to organize and carry through a project - e.g., Makefiles; shortcuts to move between the project files, fast; how to name and organize the files and access them (with dired or otherwise); how to use Gnus so you can get on Usenet/litbots/gmane and ask/reply-to questions and thus improve your skills but also solve specific problems (ditto IRC with ERC but to a lesser degree as it isn't as powerful by far); also, how to document it all with groff and integrate that into the man pages of your system; and so on. All of this should be (and is) documented separately and with the ambition of being complete, but yes, it would be cool to attempt to glue it all together in one neat volume. As in, without documenting the entirety of those systems, instead show how parts of them all can be components (tools and/or methods) in a particular style of programming which we would think of as "Emacsy"... (3) is something like (1) some of (2) LaTeX and BibLaTeX gnuplot (or equivalent(s)) so there wouldn't be a lot to write in terms of Emacs relating specifically to thesis writing. (4) I don't have any experience using Emacs like that so I can't say. Is it common? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573