From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: RCS, again: another removed functionality: undo last-checkin
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 09:26:12 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y4fzmh97.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83lhbzmvhq.fsf@gnu.org>
Eli Zaretskii writes:
> Yes, it does. From the description of "cvs admin":
But IIRC cvs admin requires shell access to the repository host: you
can't use it from a client machine.
> So is "cvs -o". The CVS manual says that much. Why should Git be
> different? A careful user won't invoke this command unless they know
> what they are doing, right?
A user should not be able to invoke this command at all.
> > 'git revert', by itself, doesn't affect the remote either.
>
> Indeed, so what is the reason not to use it as "rollback"?
In git, "revert" has the wrong semantics; it adds a commit rather than
removing one. This would surely confuse anybody who knows a little
bit about databases.
> I agree. But the original issue was whether a "rollback" should
> invoke "git reset --hard", "git revert", or sometimes one and
> sometimes the other. The issue never was about adding a "push" to
> that.
The problem is that users don't push commits. They push branches.
That resets the ref on the remote end, which will confuse all derived
branches that include the rolled-back commit, even if you don't get
the usual rebase lossage.
My personal take is that `vc-rollback' should do "git reset" (no
--hard!), "hg strip", etc as available on the theory that "rollback"
refers to an in-progress database operation, not the users' edits in
the workspace. If the user really wants that effect, they can fullow
up with a force-checkout.
If you do implement it as "git reset --hard", it had better have a
warning prompt like, "If you do this, you will lose all work involved
in this commit, in the repo and in your workspace. Proceed?"
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-09-22 0:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-20 14:33 RCS, again: another removed functionality: undo last-checkin Uwe Brauer
2015-09-20 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-20 14:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-20 15:39 ` Uwe Brauer
2015-09-21 3:49 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-09-25 7:53 ` Uwe Brauer
2015-09-20 15:40 ` Uwe Brauer
2015-09-20 16:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-20 19:59 ` Uwe Brauer
2015-09-20 20:01 ` Uwe Brauer
2015-09-20 23:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-21 6:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-21 7:25 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-21 7:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-21 8:13 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-21 8:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-21 8:27 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-21 8:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-21 8:58 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-21 9:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-21 10:18 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-21 10:21 ` Bastian Beischer
2015-09-22 6:56 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-22 11:49 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-09-22 22:02 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-22 22:49 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-09-23 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-23 7:18 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-23 8:28 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-09-23 9:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-23 22:09 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-23 5:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-23 6:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-23 13:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-23 13:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-23 15:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-23 15:13 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-23 15:31 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-09-23 14:38 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-09-23 14:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-23 15:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-23 15:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-23 17:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-30 2:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-30 4:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-30 6:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-30 8:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-30 8:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-30 11:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-30 12:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-01 2:22 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-01 2:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-02 2:27 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-02 6:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-02 7:17 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-10-02 7:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-03 1:37 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-02 6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-03 1:37 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-30 14:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 2:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-01 7:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 19:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-01 19:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 20:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-01 20:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 20:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
[not found] ` <83a8s28gun.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-10-01 21:01 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-01 21:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-01 21:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-02 6:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-02 6:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-02 7:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-30 12:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-02 2:27 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-02 2:27 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-02 2:24 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-02 3:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-02 7:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-02 12:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-02 13:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-02 14:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-02 14:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-02 14:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-02 14:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-02 15:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-02 16:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-30 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-30 11:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-30 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 2:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-01 7:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 12:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-01 13:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 17:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-01 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 19:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-01 19:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 20:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-01 23:55 ` Drew Adams
2015-10-02 0:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-02 6:16 ` Drew Adams
2015-10-02 2:27 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-02 4:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-02 4:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-23 19:03 ` Uwe Brauer
2015-09-23 22:12 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-25 8:29 ` Uwe Brauer
2015-09-26 1:10 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-23 22:10 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-25 8:30 ` Uwe Brauer
2015-09-23 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-21 13:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-21 13:59 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-21 18:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-21 14:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-21 16:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-21 16:58 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-21 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-21 17:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-21 19:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-21 19:30 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-21 19:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-21 19:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-22 0:39 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-09-22 6:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-22 13:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-22 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-22 18:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-22 19:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-23 5:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-23 6:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-23 14:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-23 22:08 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-21 19:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-22 0:26 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2015-09-22 6:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-22 12:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-22 6:32 ` Steinar Bang
2015-09-20 17:09 ` Steinar Bang
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