* bug#21509: 25.0.50; X11 error: BadPixmap when creating first emacsclient frame; and memory leak
@ 2015-09-18 4:41 Dima Kogan
[not found] ` <handler.21509.B.14425512741008.ack@debbugs.gnu.org>
2017-09-03 10:15 ` bug#21509: 25.0.50; X11 error: BadPixmap when creating first emacsclient frame; and memory leak martin rudalics
0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Dima Kogan @ 2015-09-18 4:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 21509
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Hi. I'm continuing the hunt for memory leaks:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-09/msg00619.html
As noted in that post, even after fixing the winner-mode problem, memory
still leaks, albeit slowly. Chasing down that leak led me to this bug.
The issue is an X11 BadPixmap error thrown maybe 20% of the time when
the FIRST client frame is opened. I have only tested with the lucid
widgets. Steps:
1. emacs -Q --daemon
2. In bash: while true; do timeout 1 emacsclient -a '' -c; sleep 1; done;
So I spawn a new frame kill it after 1 second, then wait 1 more second
and repeat. Most of the time this looks like what you'd expect. About
20% of the time, however, the new X window pops up momentarily, and
instantly goes away. What's happening internally is apparently an X11
error that blows up the window. This isn't printed anywhere, but I use
perf to see it:
# perf probe -x /usr/bin/emacs --add 'x_connection_closed error_message:string'
...
# perf record -p `pidof emacs` -eprobe_emacs:x_connection_closed
... Ctrl-c when done
# perf script
emacs-tst 24692 [000] 443392.814048: probe_emacs:x_connection_closed: (4c0000) error_message_string="X protocol error: BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter) on protocol request 55"
This clearly shouldn't happen. I've been running my emacs as a daemon
for years, however and I've never seen this. It turns out that this
happens ONLY if we creates/destroy the only frame. If instead, we
1. create one frame by keeping an instance of the client open
2. Run the above bash snippet to repeatedly create/destroy the second
frame, then this X error does not happen, and everything works.
Another part of this is that when an X frame dies in this way, we leak
memory. The biggest offender is the font system. Normally, when a frame
is created, we open some fonts with xftfont_open(). Then when the frame
is destroyed x_delete_terminal() is called, which among other things
does
if (dpyinfo->display)
XtCloseDisplay();
which frees the fonts. If we get an X error, however, then
x_connection_closed() runs first. This sets dpyinfo->display=0, so the
above doesn't run, and the fonts leak.
I'm attaching a plot where I sampled the memory usage every second. At
the start I had an extra client window open, and we leak memory. Then I
closed that client window, and we started leaking memory much faster.
Then I created an extra client window again, and the leak slowed down
once again.
If we can fix the X error, the leak maybe doesn't matter.
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* bug#21509: update [not found] ` <handler.21509.B.14425512741008.ack@debbugs.gnu.org> @ 2015-10-02 7:32 ` Dima Kogan 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Dima Kogan @ 2015-10-02 7:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 21509 A small update: this X error only comes up when scroll bars are enabled. Turning them off with 'M-x scroll-bar-mode' makes the crash disappear. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* bug#21509: 25.0.50; X11 error: BadPixmap when creating first emacsclient frame; and memory leak 2015-09-18 4:41 bug#21509: 25.0.50; X11 error: BadPixmap when creating first emacsclient frame; and memory leak Dima Kogan [not found] ` <handler.21509.B.14425512741008.ack@debbugs.gnu.org> @ 2017-09-03 10:15 ` martin rudalics 2017-09-05 6:21 ` Dima Kogan 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: martin rudalics @ 2017-09-03 10:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dima Kogan, 21509 Dima, just in case you're still around > The issue is an X11 BadPixmap error thrown maybe 20% of the time when > the FIRST client frame is opened. I have only tested with the lucid > widgets. Steps: > > 1. emacs -Q --daemon > 2. In bash: while true; do timeout 1 emacsclient -a '' -c; sleep 1; done; > > So I spawn a new frame kill it after 1 second, then wait 1 more second > and repeat. Most of the time this looks like what you'd expect. About > 20% of the time, however, the new X window pops up momentarily, and > instantly goes away. What's happening internally is apparently an X11 > error that blows up the window. This isn't printed anywhere, but I use > perf to see it: > > # perf probe -x /usr/bin/emacs --add 'x_connection_closed error_message:string' > ... > > # perf record -p `pidof emacs` -eprobe_emacs:x_connection_closed > ... Ctrl-c when done > > # perf script > emacs-tst 24692 [000] 443392.814048: probe_emacs:x_connection_closed: (4c0000) error_message_string="X protocol error: BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter) on protocol request 55" I now installed in master a "fix" for this, see also the discussion of Bug#27816. Can you try it and also check whether it has any implications on the memory leak problem? Thanks, martin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* bug#21509: 25.0.50; X11 error: BadPixmap when creating first emacsclient frame; and memory leak 2017-09-03 10:15 ` bug#21509: 25.0.50; X11 error: BadPixmap when creating first emacsclient frame; and memory leak martin rudalics @ 2017-09-05 6:21 ` Dima Kogan 2017-09-05 8:18 ` martin rudalics 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Dima Kogan @ 2017-09-05 6:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: martin rudalics; +Cc: 21509 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2719 bytes --] martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes: > Dima, just in case you're still around Hi. I'm around, just don't have time to work on emacs as much as I would like. > I now installed in master a "fix" for this, see also the discussion of > Bug#27816. > > Can you try it and also check whether it has any implications on the > memory leak problem? Thank you very much for tracking this down! I'm at the current HEAD (979797b9eca0ab009cc75a29765f998ec2aa1b45). This is after your fix was applied. I gathered data with 4 different sets of code: - Lucid widgets. At HEAD, but with the fix (commit d577d1609c6c9d11b6af30a33e02bb21ffa821fd) pulled out. This should trigger this bug. Confirmed. - Lucid widgets. At HEAD, with fix pulled out (same as above), but with the scroll bar turned off. This bug should not be triggered. Confirmed also. - Lucid widgets. At HEAD, without any changes. The fix is in place. The bug should not be triggered. Again, confirmed. The fix works. - GTK widgets. At HEAD, without any changes. For each of these cases, I started a daemon with dima@scrawny:~/emacs/src$ ./emacs -Q --daemon=tst Then I looped the client, repeatedly spawning and killing new frames (same as what I was doing when looking for leaks before) dima@scrawny:~/emacs/lib-src$ while true; do timeout 1 ./emacsclient -a '' -c -s tst; sleep 1; done; At the same time, I'd collect memory usage data: dima@scrawny:~$ while true; do ps -h -p PID -O rss; sleep 1; done | tee /tmp/logfile I'm attaching the gathered data for all the cases, and a plot made with this command: $ cat \ <(< /tmp/before.log awk '{print NR,"nofix_yesscroll",$2}') \ <(< /tmp/before.no.scroll.log awk '{print NR,"nofix_noscroll",$2}') \ <(< /tmp/after.yes.scroll.log awk '{print NR,"yesfix_yesscroll",$2}') \ <(< /tmp/after.yes.scroll.gtk.log awk '{print NR,"yesfix_yesscroll_gtk",$2}') \ | feedgnuplot --lines --dataid --domain --autolegend --xlabel 'frame index (2 seconds per frame)' --ylabel 'Memory consumed (kB)' So in the case of lucid widgets, you not only fixed the bug, but also massively plugged the memory leaks that were associated with new emacs frames. Awesome! The fix doesn't affect GTK, so that plot is just for reference. It's clearly still leaking, and its baseline memory usage is higher. I was thinking that GTK does a larger number of small allocations that are soon freed, and thus suffers from more fragmentation issues. To test that, I invoked malloc_trim(0) just after t=450 in the gtk run. This asks malloc to return the the kernel all the unused memory it's holding. And we see a 5MB drop. So the GTK leaks aren't as bad as they look. So yeah. Good fix and thanks. 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* bug#21509: 25.0.50; X11 error: BadPixmap when creating first emacsclient frame; and memory leak 2017-09-05 6:21 ` Dima Kogan @ 2017-09-05 8:18 ` martin rudalics 2017-09-09 1:49 ` Dima Kogan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: martin rudalics @ 2017-09-05 8:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dima Kogan; +Cc: 21509 > So in the case of lucid widgets, you not only fixed the bug, I coin it a "fix" because I just pushed the same workaround that had been used for the GTK build before. But it hardly qualifies as a real fix because it makes the referencing counting mechanism practically obsolete for any kind of frame deletion. > but also > massively plugged the memory leaks that were associated with new emacs > frames. Awesome! IIUC your numbers of Lucid with scrollbars now coincide with the numbers of Lucid without scrollbars before the "fix". OTOH the numbers for GTK largely coincide with those of Lucid with scrollbars before the "fix". So X itself seems much more dominant than any toolkit particularities. > The fix doesn't affect GTK, so that plot is just for reference. It's > clearly still leaking, and its baseline memory usage is higher. I was > thinking that GTK does a larger number of small allocations that are > soon freed, and thus suffers from more fragmentation issues. To test > that, I invoked malloc_trim(0) just after t=450 in the gtk run. This > asks malloc to return the the kernel all the unused memory it's holding. > And we see a 5MB drop. So the GTK leaks aren't as bad as they look. I think what was going on before the "fix" is this: We free data we shouldn't, probably due to a bug in the reference counting mechanism. Some time later, after that data got overwritten, the new data triggers the error in the toolkit code. I say "some time later" because the error (1) apparently nowhere triggers with _every_ invocation of emacsclient, (2) its frequency seems to differ according to the various bug reports from every third invocation to every fifth, and (3) it seems to have a fairly constant frequency, at least here when it starts to happen every third invocation it will continue to happen every third invocation. While the above tries to explain the bug reported by the toolkit, any memory leak should follow from trying to delete the terminal but when doing so we forget to explicitly free some (maybe font related) data and when invoking a new client we reallocate that data instead of reusing the one we forgot about. This does not explain any difference between the GTK (before the "fix") and Lucid (after the "fix") behaviors. What happens with GTK when you allow it to delete the terminal by allowing terminal->reference_count drop to zero? If it does not crash immediately, is the memory leak more heavy than it is now? Also, could you try whether changing ‘gc-cons-threshold’ in either direction has any impact on the occurrence of the toolkit bug or the growth of the memory leak? Once I thought that this could affect the frequency of the error but didn't get any conclusive results. Thanks, martin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* bug#21509: 25.0.50; X11 error: BadPixmap when creating first emacsclient frame; and memory leak 2017-09-05 8:18 ` martin rudalics @ 2017-09-09 1:49 ` Dima Kogan 2017-09-09 7:59 ` martin rudalics 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Dima Kogan @ 2017-09-09 1:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: martin rudalics; +Cc: 21509 martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes: > > but also > > massively plugged the memory leaks that were associated with new emacs > > frames. Awesome! > > IIUC your numbers of Lucid with scrollbars now coincide with the numbers > of Lucid without scrollbars before the "fix". No, that's not right. Lucid with scrollbars post-fix is the blue line: memory usage is stable as frames are created/destroyed: the leak is ~0 Lucid without scrollbars pre-fix is the green line. Memory usage is climbing. We aren't leaking as badly as the other cases, but we ARE leaking. So the fix resolved the large leakages in the other cases and also the small leakages that weren't scroll-bar-related. > OTOH the numbers for GTK largely coincide with those of Lucid with > scrollbars before the "fix". So X itself seems much more dominant than > any toolkit particularities. I don't think this is right either. Lucid with scrollbars pre-fix is the purple line. We leak memory at a high, constant rate. GTK memory usage (yellow) is noisy and fragmented (I bet we're invoking malloc/free much more often). The baseline memory consumption is higher, the past that, the leak rate isn't nearly as bad as the purple. The higher fragmentation means that the internals of malloc() matter too: I invoked malloc_trim() just after t=450s, and we see the memory usage dropped sharply as a result. > This does not explain any difference between the GTK (before the "fix") > and Lucid (after the "fix") behaviors. What happens with GTK when you > allow it to delete the terminal by allowing terminal->reference_count > drop to zero? If it does not crash immediately, is the memory leak more > heavy than it is now? I haven't run that experiment, but I could do that. Probably won't get to it for a week, though. > Also, could you try whether changing gc-cons-threshold in either > direction has any impact on the occurrence of the toolkit bug or the > growth of the memory leak? Once I thought that this could affect the > frequency of the error but didn't get any conclusive results. OK. I'll look. By the way, if you haven't tried it yet, look at rr: http://www.rr-project.com It's a debugging instrumentation tool that saves a process execution trace, and lets you replay it forwards and backwards in gdb. Could make it possible to find heisen-problems such as this. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* bug#21509: 25.0.50; X11 error: BadPixmap when creating first emacsclient frame; and memory leak 2017-09-09 1:49 ` Dima Kogan @ 2017-09-09 7:59 ` martin rudalics 2017-10-15 3:48 ` Dima Kogan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: martin rudalics @ 2017-09-09 7:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dima Kogan; +Cc: 21509 >> IIUC your numbers of Lucid with scrollbars now coincide with the numbers >> of Lucid without scrollbars before the "fix". > > No, that's not right. > > Lucid with scrollbars post-fix is the blue line: memory usage is stable > as frames are created/destroyed: the leak is ~0 > > Lucid without scrollbars pre-fix is the green line. Memory usage is > climbing. We aren't leaking as badly as the other cases, but we ARE > leaking. > > So the fix resolved the large leakages in the other cases and also the > small leakages that weren't scroll-bar-related. I can't follow you. before.no.scroll.log has 16112 19608 S ? 00:00:00 emacs ... 16112 29700 S ? 00:00:12 emacs while after.yes.scroll.log has 17508 19652 S ? 00:00:00 emacs ... 17508 29160 S ? 00:00:13 emacs which strike me as very similar (especially given the figures of the two other logs). What am I missing? >> OTOH the numbers for GTK largely coincide with those of Lucid with >> scrollbars before the "fix". So X itself seems much more dominant than >> any toolkit particularities. > > I don't think this is right either. Lucid with scrollbars pre-fix is the > purple line. We leak memory at a high, constant rate. GTK memory usage > (yellow) is noisy and fragmented (I bet we're invoking malloc/free much > more often). The baseline memory consumption is higher, the past that, > the leak rate isn't nearly as bad as the purple. The higher > fragmentation means that the internals of malloc() matter too: I invoked > malloc_trim() just after t=450s, and we see the memory usage dropped > sharply as a result. I can't tell that since it's not in your figures. But again, the raw data from before.log and after.yes.scroll.gtk.log seem similar too. >> This does not explain any difference between the GTK (before the "fix") >> and Lucid (after the "fix") behaviors. What happens with GTK when you >> allow it to delete the terminal by allowing terminal->reference_count >> drop to zero? If it does not crash immediately, is the memory leak more >> heavy than it is now? > > I haven't run that experiment, but I could do that. Probably won't get > to it for a week, though. Please try. If you succeed running it, the resulting difference between the "before" GTK and Lucid runs should IMHO show the noise introduced by malloc/free more clearly. And obviously running the before/after experiments for Motif would be interesting too: The Motif build crashed in the menu bar section while the Lucid build crashed in the scroll bar section. >> Also, could you try whether changing gc-cons-threshold in either >> direction has any impact on the occurrence of the toolkit bug or the >> growth of the memory leak? Once I thought that this could affect the >> frequency of the error but didn't get any conclusive results. > > OK. I'll look. > > By the way, if you haven't tried it yet, look at rr: > > http://www.rr-project.com It's http://www.rr-project.org now. > It's a debugging instrumentation tool that saves a process execution > trace, and lets you replay it forwards and backwards in gdb. Could make > it possible to find heisen-problems such as this. If it's a GC related problem, it would need more patience than I'm able to provide anyway. I'm still trying to find a common pattern for all these behaviors from a coarse-grained perspective. And obviously it would be interesting to find out why the whereabouts at the time of the "X11 error that blows up the window" apparently differ for the various builds. IIUC it's still us who determine which one to draw first - the menu bar or the scroll bar. martin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* bug#21509: 25.0.50; X11 error: BadPixmap when creating first emacsclient frame; and memory leak 2017-09-09 7:59 ` martin rudalics @ 2017-10-15 3:48 ` Dima Kogan 2017-10-15 9:40 ` martin rudalics 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Dima Kogan @ 2017-10-15 3:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: martin rudalics; +Cc: 21509 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 6214 bytes --] Hi. Sorry it took me this long to get back to you. I'll try to reply in a more timely way if you have more requests. Notes inline martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes: > >> IIUC your numbers of Lucid with scrollbars now coincide with the numbers > >> of Lucid without scrollbars before the "fix". > > > > No, that's not right. > > > > Lucid with scrollbars post-fix is the blue line: memory usage is stable > > as frames are created/destroyed: the leak is ~0 > > > > Lucid without scrollbars pre-fix is the green line. Memory usage is > > climbing. We aren't leaking as badly as the other cases, but we ARE > > leaking. > > > > So the fix resolved the large leakages in the other cases and also the > > small leakages that weren't scroll-bar-related. > > I can't follow you. before.no.scroll.log has > > 16112 19608 S ? 00:00:00 emacs > ... > 16112 29700 S ? 00:00:12 emacs > > while after.yes.scroll.log has > > 17508 19652 S ? 00:00:00 emacs > ... > 17508 29160 S ? 00:00:13 emacs > > which strike me as very similar (especially given the figures of the two > other logs). What am I missing? I wasn't consistent in how long I was running each trial, so by simply looking at the final memory usage values as you're doing above, you're looking at different runtimes. The plot attached the last time shows all of the raw data, and you should clearly see the different slopes of the two trials: i.e. one is leaking and the other is not. > >> OTOH the numbers for GTK largely coincide with those of Lucid with > >> scrollbars before the "fix". So X itself seems much more dominant than > >> any toolkit particularities. > > > > I don't think this is right either. Lucid with scrollbars pre-fix is the > > purple line. We leak memory at a high, constant rate. GTK memory usage > > (yellow) is noisy and fragmented (I bet we're invoking malloc/free much > > more often). The baseline memory consumption is higher, the past that, > > the leak rate isn't nearly as bad as the purple. The higher > > fragmentation means that the internals of malloc() matter too: I invoked > > malloc_trim() just after t=450s, and we see the memory usage dropped > > sharply as a result. > > I can't tell that since it's not in your figures. But again, the raw > data from before.log and after.yes.scroll.gtk.log seem similar too. Again, the plot is much more descriptive. The GTK case uses a lot more memory upfront and then leaks slowly. Conversely, the lucid no-fix-yes-scrollbars case uses much less upfront, but then leaks much faster. In the arbitrary-length trials from the previous email, they end up at roughly the same place. But that's a coincidence. > >> This does not explain any difference between the GTK (before the "fix") > >> and Lucid (after the "fix") behaviors. What happens with GTK when you > >> allow it to delete the terminal by allowing terminal->reference_count > >> drop to zero? If it does not crash immediately, is the memory leak more > >> heavy than it is now? > > > > I haven't run that experiment, but I could do that. Probably won't get > > to it for a week, though. > > Please try. If you succeed running it, the resulting difference between > the "before" GTK and Lucid runs should IMHO show the noise introduced by > malloc/free more clearly. And obviously running the before/after > experiments for Motif would be interesting too: The Motif build crashed > in the menu bar section while the Lucid build crashed in the scroll bar > section. > > >> Also, could you try whether changing gc-cons-threshold in either > >> direction has any impact on the occurrence of the toolkit bug or the > >> growth of the memory leak? Once I thought that this could affect the > >> frequency of the error but didn't get any conclusive results. I ran a few more trials to get the data you asked for. All of these: - Are at the same baseline revision as before: 979797b9eca0ab. This is after your lucid "fix" - Are 4 minutes long - invoke malloc_trim() at the end, so the noticeable drop in resident memory use at the end of each trial is visible The different trials are - GTK stock: has the reference-counting logic to prevent terminal->reference_count reaching 0 - GTK without the refcount logic: has NO reference-counting logic to prevent terminal->reference_count reaching 0 - Lucid stock - Lucid with no refcount logic and stock 800k gc-cons-threshold - Lucid with no refcount logic and 80k gc-cons-threshold - Lucid with no refcount logic and 8000k gc-cons-threshold Raw data and accompanying plot attached. Plot made thusly: cat \ <(< gtk.stock.log awk '{print NR,"gtk.stock.log", $2}') \ <(< gtk.no.refcount.logic.log awk '{print NR,"gtk.no.refcount.logic.log", $2}') \ <(< lucid.no.refcount.logic.gc80k.log awk '{print NR,"lucid.no.refcount.logic.gc80k.log", $2}') \ <(< lucid.no.refcount.logic.gc800k.log awk '{print NR,"lucid.no.refcount.logic.gc800k.log", $2}') \ <(< lucid.no.refcount.logic.gc8000k.log awk '{print NR,"lucid.no.refcount.logic.gc8000k.log", $2}') \ <(< lucid.yes.refcount.logic.log awk '{print NR,"lucid.yes.refcount.logic.log", $2}') \ | feedgnuplot --lines --dataid --domain --autolegend --xlabel 'frame index (2 seconds per frame)' --ylabel 'Memory consumed (kB)' As expected, turning off the refcounting logic for the GTK terminal makes it crash long before the trial ends. And it leaks lots of memory in the meantime: ~ 430kB/frame For whatever reason, the gtk trial is much more consistent this time. It leaks at ~ 15kB/frame, although malloc_trim() gives back 1300kB at the end, so the 15kB/frame is an overestimate, as far as emacs is concerned at least. As before, adding the refcounting logic to the lucid terminal drops the leak rate to 0. Tweaking gc-cons-threshold does have an effect, but it's not clear what. The default is 800kB. Looks like the 80k and 800k settings produce similar leaks at 54kB/frame. An 8000kB setting produces a sharp climb of about 8000kB above the baseline, and then a slower leak of ~44kB/frame, although this isn't as linear as the others. Does any of this speak to you? 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* bug#21509: 25.0.50; X11 error: BadPixmap when creating first emacsclient frame; and memory leak 2017-10-15 3:48 ` Dima Kogan @ 2017-10-15 9:40 ` martin rudalics 2017-10-15 18:24 ` Dima Kogan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: martin rudalics @ 2017-10-15 9:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dima Kogan; +Cc: 21509 > The plot attached the last time shows all > of the raw data, and you should clearly see the different slopes of the > two trials: i.e. one is leaking and the other is not. [...] > Again, the plot is much more descriptive. I sadly have to admit that I misinterpreted your last posts completely simply because I then missed the pdf attachment (which I usually don't see with my settings). When you were talking about blue and green lines I thought of them as borders we'd better not transgress ... So most of my earlier remarks were just silly. Now everything is much much clearer to me. In fact, your plots make it easy to distinguish the "upfront" consumption from the actual leaks and allow to see the leakage clearly. I'll eventually have to include links to your plots in the code. > Does any of this speak to you? The only thing that still stupefies me is why an 80k cons threshold eventually produces strictly more leakage than the 800k and 8000k ones. Do you have an explanation for that? Doesn't that also mean that with such a low threshold running the test for some twenty minutes will have us run out of memory? Ah yes. Could you please run GTK (not the crashing one) with the 80k and 8000k cons thresholds too? Many thanks, martin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* bug#21509: 25.0.50; X11 error: BadPixmap when creating first emacsclient frame; and memory leak 2017-10-15 9:40 ` martin rudalics @ 2017-10-15 18:24 ` Dima Kogan 2017-10-16 7:42 ` martin rudalics 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Dima Kogan @ 2017-10-15 18:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: martin rudalics; +Cc: 21509 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1755 bytes --] martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes: > Now everything is much much clearer to me. In fact, your plots make it > easy to distinguish the "upfront" consumption from the actual leaks and > allow to see the leakage clearly. I'll eventually have to include links > to your plots in the code. Glad that was cleared up. > > Does any of this speak to you? > > The only thing that still stupefies me is why an 80k cons threshold > eventually produces strictly more leakage than the 800k and 8000k ones. > Do you have an explanation for that? > > Doesn't that also mean that with such a low threshold running the test > for some twenty minutes will have us run out of memory? Sigh. This was my fault: it appears that I sent you the wrong plot. Apparently if the emacs windows pop up in the background, the toolkits do less work and allocate less memory. The plot I sent by mistake was made while I was doing other work on that machine, so the memory usage is inconsistent. Yesterday I reran the trials to get good data, and the data in that email is correct. But I sent the wrong plot by mistake. > Ah yes. Could you please run GTK (not the crashing one) with the 80k > and 8000k cons thresholds too? OK. Let's forget about yesterday's plot. Here's a new plot containing all the correct data from yesterday, and these two new trials you just asked for. In both the lucid and gtk cases, we get similar results with gc-cons-threshold=80k and gc-cons-threshold=800k. Setting it to 8000k, we observe an initial steep climb of ~8000k, at which point the gc kicks in, and we start leaking at the same rate as the 80k,800k cases, albeit with a ~8000k offset. I think the initial climb makes sense to me, but not the offset. Does it make sense to you? 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00:00:21 emacs 1476 51092 S ? 00:00:21 emacs 1476 51092 S ? 00:00:21 emacs 1476 51092 S ? 00:00:21 emacs 1476 51092 S ? 00:00:21 emacs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* bug#21509: 25.0.50; X11 error: BadPixmap when creating first emacsclient frame; and memory leak 2017-10-15 18:24 ` Dima Kogan @ 2017-10-16 7:42 ` martin rudalics 2017-10-16 16:33 ` Dima Kogan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: martin rudalics @ 2017-10-16 7:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dima Kogan; +Cc: 21509 > Setting it to 8000k, we observe an initial steep climb of ~8000k, at > which point the gc kicks in, and we start leaking at the same rate as > the 80k,800k cases, albeit with a ~8000k offset. I think the initial > climb makes sense to me, but not the offset. Does it make sense to you? Do you mean the apparent fact that the value of cons threshold affects the Resident Set Size? What surprises me is that both 800K cons-threshold runs apparently start with a considerable lower memory consumption (around 20000 kB) than the 80k and 8000k runs. martin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* bug#21509: 25.0.50; X11 error: BadPixmap when creating first emacsclient frame; and memory leak 2017-10-16 7:42 ` martin rudalics @ 2017-10-16 16:33 ` Dima Kogan 2017-10-17 8:58 ` martin rudalics 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Dima Kogan @ 2017-10-16 16:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: martin rudalics; +Cc: 21509 martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes: > What surprises me is that both 800K cons-threshold runs apparently start > with a considerable lower memory consumption (around 20000 kB) than the > 80k and 8000k runs. Ah, that I CAN explain: it's an artifact of the way I ran the trials. For the 800k cases I'd start the emacs daemon from the commandline, and then start gathering the data and cycling the frames. For the 80k and 8000k cases I'd start the daemon, and then take an extra step: Open a single client frame to (setq gc-cons-threshold whatever) I should have started gathering the usage data before I opened this first frame, but I guess I didn't. So the memory usage plots the 800k start when no frames have ever been created, but the 80k and 8000k start after 1 frame was created. So this difference isn't indicative of anything interesting. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* bug#21509: 25.0.50; X11 error: BadPixmap when creating first emacsclient frame; and memory leak 2017-10-16 16:33 ` Dima Kogan @ 2017-10-17 8:58 ` martin rudalics 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: martin rudalics @ 2017-10-17 8:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dima Kogan; +Cc: 21509 > Ah, that I CAN explain: it's an artifact of the way I ran the trials. [...] > So this difference isn't indicative of anything interesting. Thanks. As for the issue you can't explain was my guess Do you mean the apparent fact that the value of cons threshold affects the Resident Set Size? correct? martin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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