From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: lax matching is not a great default behavior Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2015 20:32:24 +0100 Message-ID: <87y4dermlz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <837fl2qzs2.fsf@gnu.org> <83610ikvto.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb8iqa0l.fsf@udel.edu> <83wpsyj8ue.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448998372 1298 80.91.229.3 (1 Dec 2015 19:32:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 19:32:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Mark Oteiza , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 01 20:32:43 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a3qf9-0004KY-GB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 20:32:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54552 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a3qf8-0006Sd-PZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 14:32:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54739) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a3qf4-0006RO-N4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 14:32:27 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a3qf3-0006M8-LB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 14:32:26 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46592) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a3qf3-0006M4-If; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 14:32:25 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60411 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1a3qf3-0003aC-2n; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 14:32:25 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AEF1AE69DB; Tue, 1 Dec 2015 20:32:24 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <83wpsyj8ue.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 01 Dec 2015 20:56:57 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195708 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Mark Oteiza >> Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2015 13:49:46 -0500 >> >> I think the performance hit of char-folding is a good reason to disable >> it. (Perhaps it's much worse for me since this emacs is not optimized.) > > Then turn it off in your sessions. That's just the default, you don't > have to suffer if you don't like/need it. (The release version is not > supposed to be unoptimized on end-users' machines, btw.) Optimization does not tend to make staggering differences. There is something to be said for Emacs developers trying to work with the defaults and not just silently reconfigure them when they get in the way of productivity not just because of old habits but because of actual ergonomic or performance problems. Developers are less likely to suffer from the "I guess it is supposed to be that way" disease, so they in particular should think twice before just reconfiguring. -- David Kastrup