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[213.196.211.57]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ka7sm14717518wjb.8.2016.03.06.13.25.22 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 06 Mar 2016 13:25:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Notmuch/0.20.2+113~g6332e6e (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/25.0.90.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:114512 Archived-At: On Sun, Mar 06 2016 13:07 (-0800), John Wiegley wrote: > > I have always wanted to drop the ChangeLogs, so if the other developers agree, > I'm all for it. Keeping ChangeLog style in the commit entry is not terribly > useful either, since the diff output of log -p lets you know which function or > variable is being modified. I've never missed not having that ChangeLog data > in other projects, of any size. But that's up to the other developers and what > makes their lives easier. +1 I am but a lowly one- or two-time committer to Emacs' core, but I definitely concur that the Changelogs are one extra entry barrier to contribution, especially for starters or not-so-frequent contributors. And incidentally, I messed up the Changelog not too long ago and others patiently helped me out.