From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: VC menu ? Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2017 10:01:43 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87y3s1ll4o.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <878tk1erfz.fsf@holos> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499349733 14720 195.159.176.226 (6 Jul 2017 14:02:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 14:02:13 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 06 16:02:02 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dT7M2-0003Jc-2n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 16:02:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51635 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dT7M7-0002Rn-Fv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 10:02:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35399) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dT7Lw-0002Re-Gr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 10:02:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dT7Ls-0004Uo-MY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 10:01:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=47942 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dT7Ls-0004TM-Gz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 10:01:52 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dT7Ll-0002dE-3h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 16:01:45 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:NaTEpHFhqlo+4MGtyp6yPvaivzs= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216220 Archived-At: On Thu, 06 Jul 2017 07:27:12 -0400 Mark Oteiza wrote: MO> Sarcasm aside, if you had ever flipped through the Emacs manual or MO> scrolled through a list of keybindings, you would have been aware of VC. I think menu-driven UI discovery is fun and an essential part of the GUI experience. We should not expect users to be diligent readers[1]. Ted [1] as previously posted: Rule #1 of writing manuals: They Won't Read It. ...followed by rule #2: They Still Won't Read It. ...and then rule #3: They'll Complain About It. ...then David Kastrup suggested I forgot rule #4: To Justify not Reading It.