From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2017 09:13:56 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87y3qz79wr.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87o9sp7qok.fsf@gmail.com> <87zic9vk98.fsf@mouse> <87fue17mo5.fsf@gmail.com> <87tw2hvhob.fsf@mouse> <8760ex63hi.fsf@gmail.com> <87fue1v5lr.fsf@mouse> <87shi0tqh3.fsf@gmail.com> <87d18fwl66.fsf@gmail.com> <87tw1rihu0.fsf@mouse> <4037dc81-4245-6925-842a-2c84a5ba996d@cs.ucla.edu> <87pocfibky.fsf@mouse> <873798j2ij.fsf@mouse> <87h8xobg9p.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83lgmzyjon.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1501855743 15985 195.159.176.226 (4 Aug 2017 14:09:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 14:09:03 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 04 16:08:58 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dddHX-0003YC-QG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 16:08:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53885 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dddHd-00013p-Mi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 10:08:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50588) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddcSr-0000MI-Bp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 09:17:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddcRg-0004ik-OJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 09:16:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=43453 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddcRg-0004e7-84 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 09:15:16 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddcRT-0002qi-Mt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 15:15:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:RJUInr7/id0lViG28JLlfHarEHo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217283 Archived-At: On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 08:40:40 +0300 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Ted Zlatanov >> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 15:30:42 -0400 >> >> I'd love that. I think the `notifications-notify' function would be a >> good delegate on platforms that support it, and a suitable fallback could >> be developed for the rest of the platforms. EZ> notifications-notify only works in GUI sessions, so TTY sessions will EZ> need a fallback that will probably still use the echo area. Right. I would implement the fallback inside `notifications-notify' and let the user customize that, so Emacs can have a central dispatcher for general notifications (as opposed to log messages). Most graphical platform have a desktop-level notification system that's familiar to users, so plugging into that instead of inventing something new would make sense. EZ> Personally, I don't think notifications-notify is suitable for this EZ> even in GUI sessions, but that's me. Can you explain why it's not? Behavior, capabilities, GUI-only, something else? Ted