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[70.64.85.59]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o204sm406786ioe.63.2017.09.28.00.05.41 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 28 Sep 2017 00:05:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20170913125023.GA26999@holos.localdomain> (Mark Oteiza's message of "Wed, 13 Sep 2017 08:50:23 -0400") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c06::241 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218842 Archived-At: Mark Oteiza writes: > On 13/09/17 at 08:40am, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> > According to [1] (page 53), MACLISP didn't have a visible >> > gensym-counter, and instead used an integer argument to gensym to allow >> > programs to set an internal counter. According to [2], it was only >> > decided in 1989 to have *gensym-counter* in CL, so before then having an >> > integer argument made sense if you wanted to manipulate the gensym >> > state. > > Thanks for digging that up. > >> > but I wonder if people who use an integer argument here are the type >> > of people to use `cl' instead of `cl-lib'. >> >> I think using the plural here is rather optimistic. I'd already be >> surprised if there's even just one user of that functionality. > > Only one way to find out! I suppose I'll apply the patch I sent earlier. It doesn't really matter, but wouldn't it be a bit nicer if cl-gensym and gensym shared the same counter and default prefix?