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Contovounesios" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 11:55:07 +0100 Message-ID: <87y34s7k38.fsf@tcd.ie> References: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87ftrbpije.fsf@bzg.fr> <87k1gnhufq.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87v9zxj7fq.fsf@bzg.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="220599"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , 34983@debbugs.gnu.org To: Bastien Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 02 12:56:23 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hBH5Z-000vGf-NT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2019 12:56:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44677 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hBH5Y-0002H8-Gk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2019 06:56:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57870) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hBH5J-0002FB-AK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2019 06:56:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hBH5I-0002z2-6o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2019 06:56:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:55025) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hBH5G-0002xS-Eh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2019 06:56:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hBH5G-0003Az-8x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2019 06:56:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Basil L. 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I will see if I can make > suggestions against the Gnus manual to help people understand this > more easily. TIA. :) -- Basil