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From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
To: Barry Fishman <barry@ecubist.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 7 logical-xor implementations in source tree
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 22:31:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y30e6j5b.fsf@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7nftmmkz83.fsf@ecube.ecubist.org> (Barry Fishman's message of "Wed, 31 Jul 2019 11:20:12 -0400")

Barry Fishman <barry@ecubist.org> writes:

> I question whether IFF is really that clear.  If you want to be
> mathematical, just use <=> or ===, and can be complete by defining the
> => implementation operator also:
>
> (defun <=> (x y) (not (xor x y)))
>
> Or:
> (defun => (x y) (or (not x) y)
> (defun <=> (x y) (and (=> x y) (=> y x))
>
> At least mathematicians will be happy (and nix programmers).

Even as a mathematician I would hate the name `iff' when using it in
Elisp which is not a language for writing mathematical stuff but for
writing code.  If you see something like

  (iff EXPR1 EXPR2)

in code, how does it read?  "If and only if evaluating EXPR1 yields
non-nil then - ehm ...??? eh - what? -- ah, ok, let's see, I remember,
it was just the negation of xor, so it actually means..." etc.
Terrible.

Michael.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-07-31 20:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-22 18:48 7 logical-xor implementations in source tree Oleh Krehel
2019-07-22 21:47 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-24 22:17   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-24 23:15     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-24 23:44       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-25 12:07         ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-07-25 17:28           ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-25 17:46             ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-07-28  7:09           ` Philippe Schnoebelen
2019-07-28  8:04             ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-07-28 19:43               ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-07-30  9:36                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-07-30 10:57                   ` Philippe Schnoebelen
2019-07-30 11:28                     ` Andy Moreton
2019-07-30 12:34                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-30 14:25                         ` Barry Fishman
2019-07-31  3:16                           ` Richard Stallman
2019-07-31 15:20                             ` Barry Fishman
2019-07-31 15:42                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-31 20:22                                 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-31 21:15                                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-07-31 22:28                                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-07-31 23:39                                     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-08-02 10:29                                       ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-08-02 10:59                                         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-08-06 11:58                                           ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-07-31 20:31                               ` Michael Heerdegen [this message]
2019-07-31 21:38                                 ` Drew Adams
2019-07-31 22:03                                   ` Drew Adams
2019-07-31 22:05                                   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-31 23:20                                     ` Drew Adams
2019-08-01  0:09                                       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-31 17:12                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-07-23  8:39 ` Andy Moreton
2019-07-23  9:08   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-23  9:14   ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-07-23 10:26     ` Andy Moreton
2019-07-23 10:40       ` Andreas Schwab
2019-07-23 12:11         ` Andy Moreton
2019-07-23 13:20           ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-23 13:54             ` Andy Moreton
2019-07-24 22:21               ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-23 10:44     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-23 11:01       ` Yuri Khan
2019-07-25 21:46       ` Juri Linkov
2019-07-23 11:24     ` Noam Postavsky
2019-07-23 12:38     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-23 16:41       ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-07-23 17:12         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-23 17:48         ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-23 19:45           ` Stefan Monnier

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