From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bundling GNU ELPA packages with Emacs - what are we missing? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254859 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: Hi Stefan, > One thing I noted is that `M-x list-packages U' doesn't mark built-in > packages for upgrading even when there is a newer version available from > GNU ELPA. Perhaps that's by design? If not, it just sounds like a bug > to fix. Sorry to be the grinch, but I'm not sure this shall happen by default. For example, Tramp is built-in in Emacs, and it exists also as GNU ELPA package. Many people don't use it; why shall they be forced to upgrade? And, as said otherwere already, such an upgraded Emacs is different from an Emacs started via "emacs -Q". For Tramp, it is essential to analyze problems with an Emacs started as "emacs -Q". We would loose this possiblitiy. > Which hurdles remain? What needs doing? I believe we would need first a solution to these problems, before we implement automatic upgrade of built-in packages. > Best regards, > Stefan Kangas