From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Include ivy + counsel in Emacs core? 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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258706 Archived-At: Oleh Krehel writes: > On 9/13/20 11:26 PM, Ergus wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 04:36:13PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> Last I heard Ivy still had problems with some completion tables (IIRC >>> with those completion tables that return non-trivial values from >>> `completion-boundaries`, such as the completion table used for >>> filenames, tho there might be other issues such as the support for >>> unquote/requote).=C2=A0 If that's still the case (it was several years = ago), >>> then enabling Ivy by default would either introduce regressions when >>> completing against such completion tables, or would force us to use >>> 2 different UIs (the Ivy one where it works well, as some other UI for >>> those other cases) ;-( >>> >>> >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Stefan >>> >> An important part of ivy was re-implemented the last year to simplify >> and unify some interfaces and many errors were corrected. >> >> I use ivy since 4 years ago with not big issues for the moment (When I >> have them I have reported and they have been solved almost immediately). >> But it needs some improve before becoming part of vanilla. >> >> It would be very nice if you comment/report/ask that to Abo-Abo. To get >> an update of the current status. > > I'm eager to solve the problems with completion tables. Some of them shou= ld > already be solved. > > If there was a bug report with a reproducible scenario, that would make t= hings > move faster. See e.g. https://github.com/abo-abo/swiper/issues/1597 for an issue with programmed completion. --=20 Basil