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From: Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Make regexp handling more regular
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2020 22:16:45 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y2ifsevm.fsf@alphapapa.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87lfeg60iy.fsf@gnus.org

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> I constant source of confusion and subtle bugs is the way Emacs does
> regexp match handling: The way `string-match' (and the rest) sets a
> global state, and you sort of have to catch them "early" is often a
> challenge for new users.
>
> Experienced Emacs Lisp programmers know to be safe and will say:
>
> (when (string-match "[a-z]" string)
>   (let ((match (match-string 0 string)))
>     (foo)
>     (bar match)))
>
> while people new to Emacs Lisp will expect this to work:
>
> (when (string-match "[a-z]" string)
>   (foo)
>   (bar (match-string - string)))
>
> And sometimes it does, and sometimes it doesn't, depending on whether
> `foo' also messes with the match data.
>
> So my idle shower thought for the day is: Is there any reasonable path
> forward that the Emacs Lisp language could take here?

It's funny that you should post this today, Lars, because I just
encountered this very problem while using code from your format-spec
function in combination with code from your shr-insert-document function
(the latter of which changed the match data, making the former fail
inexplicably...until I figured it out).  Not that I'm blaming you, of
course--it's me who's using your code in unintended ways.  :)

Anyway, I'd be very happy if Emacs had "safer" matching functions like
this.  And I like the idea of prefixing them with "rx-", as was
suggested.

Thanks for your work on Emacs!




      parent reply	other threads:[~2020-12-03  4:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-02  9:05 Make regexp handling more regular Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-02 10:44 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-02 11:12 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-02 11:21   ` Philipp Stephani
2020-12-03  8:31   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-02 17:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-02 17:45   ` Yuan Fu
2020-12-02 19:24     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-03  8:40       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-03  8:38   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-03 15:10     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-03 16:58       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-03 17:40         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-02 21:19 ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-03  8:41   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-03 15:00     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-03 21:02       ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-03 22:20         ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2020-12-02 21:28 ` Daniel Martín
2020-12-03  4:16 ` Adam Porter [this message]

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