* Re: master 6a2cdc6: Allow minor modes to specify major modes they're useful in
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@ 2021-02-12 13:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13 12:03 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2021-02-12 13:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen
> +@item :interactive @var{value}
> +Minor modes are interactive commands by default. If @var{value} is
> +@code{nil}, this is inhibited. If @var{value} is a list of symbols,
> +it's used to say which major modes this minor mode is useful in.
> @end table
Please always arrange for keyword arguments to mean the same when `nil`
is specified as when the keyword is absent.
Stefan
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2021-02-12 13:52 ` master 6a2cdc6: Allow minor modes to specify major modes they're useful in Stefan Monnier
@ 2021-02-13 12:03 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 13:53 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2021-02-13 12:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: emacs-devel
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> +@item :interactive @var{value}
>> +Minor modes are interactive commands by default. If @var{value} is
>> +@code{nil}, this is inhibited. If @var{value} is a list of symbols,
>> +it's used to say which major modes this minor mode is useful in.
>> @end table
>
> Please always arrange for keyword arguments to mean the same when `nil`
> is specified as when the keyword is absent.
That would certainly be nice, but I didn't see how to make that work
here -- :noninteractive would be misleading, since :interactive
(foo-mode) makes it interactive.
So :interactive t and leaving the keyword out results in identical
results, and I don't think that's too bad. If you squint at it, it's a
bit Common Lispish.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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2021-02-13 12:03 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2021-02-13 13:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13 15:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2021-02-13 13:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: emacs-devel
> That would certainly be nice, but I didn't see how to make that work
> here -- :noninteractive would be misleading, since :interactive
> (foo-mode) makes it interactive.
How 'bout `:inhibit-interactive` or `:not-a-command`?
> So :interactive t and leaving the keyword out results in identical
> results, and I don't think that's too bad. If you squint at it, it's a
> bit Common Lispish.
That's a part of Common-Lisp that I don't like.
Stefan
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2021-02-13 13:53 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2021-02-13 15:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2021-02-13 15:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: emacs-devel
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> That would certainly be nice, but I didn't see how to make that work
>> here -- :noninteractive would be misleading, since :interactive
>> (foo-mode) makes it interactive.
>
> How 'bout `:inhibit-interactive` or `:not-a-command`?
And add another keyword for :applicable-modes? That seems even more
complicated...
>> So :interactive t and leaving the keyword out results in identical
>> results, and I don't think that's too bad. If you squint at it, it's a
>> bit Common Lispish.
>
> That's a part of Common-Lisp that I don't like.
I love that bit -- it allows us to never use parameters like not-foo,
which are fraught with misunderstanding.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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