From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Org mode rant Date: Sat, 01 May 2021 08:34:04 +0200 Message-ID: <87y2czc68z.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <874kfn292f.fsf@disroot.org> <87a6pfh1dj.fsf@zoho.eu> <875z03ffhm.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28813"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:TZkyuTIU+pd1LwJu4DYKdtGiakc= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 01 08:35:00 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lcjDO-0007LI-PS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 08:34:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54226 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcjDN-0006RU-RG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 02:34:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50178) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcjCj-0006KM-Uq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 02:34:17 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:46432) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcjCi-0007ir-5q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 02:34:17 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lcjCc-0006X9-Pc for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 08:34:10 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:129258 Archived-At: Jean Louis wrote: > Maybe it is not, but I use Org export functions to get nice > PDF documents that people practically use in the field. Are you even allowed to do that? >> re: LaTeX I was once told "you are obsessed with LaTeX" >> (Swedish "du är besatt av LaTeX", it literally means that). >> I answered "Yeah? What about you?" ("Okej? Du då?") and he >> just said "No" ("Nej") and left. > > Who knows which latex you meant... This one is rather > spelled as LaTeH the other one is used for balloons and > population minimization. I don't remember what I used back then but now, if you by "which latex" mean what compiler and version, the answer is $ xelatex --version XeTeX 3.14159265-2.6-0.999992 (TeX Live 2020/Debian) By LaTeX I mean "[the] language [that] is described in the book LaTeX - A Document Preparation System." (latex(1)) >>> Markdown >> >> Markdown a lot of FOSS people have been in touch with since >> the READMEs with all the square brackets you get when you >> get FOSS software, that is Markdown. >> >> Unbelievable BTW, I was just using it! > > I have no idea why would README be in Markdown, but never > mind. Unless one wants to expand it into HTML, readme looks > better without Markdown. There are several reasons to do that but yes one is the possibility to produce the material in various other formats. I think Markdown looks better than plain text in markdown-mode (unbelievably not in vanilla Emacs, but I've already written about that so no more about that), I think the syntax isn't really disturbing anyone, it is also clear; apart from that font lock makes it colorful as well. > First began using it back in the same year when it was > published, today almost everybody uses it. I had static > website generation before any free software came up with it. > Today there are many. At that time, before maybe 16 years, > would I mention static website generation I would almost > get stoned. What is that, it generates static webpages? From some other data format, when that data is complete? IMO HTML is so simple one can just as well do it manually so don't have to bother with anything moving or still. > Markdown and few other markups for HTML have one huge flaw > that nobody talks about, it misses the size for pictures > which in the end turns HTML invalid. That is why I never use > any other Markdown but Discount markdown for images. It is > anyway fastest. What do you mean "misses the size for pictures"? You are right people don't seem to talk about this problem. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal