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From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Lexical vs. dynamic: small examples?
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 03:36:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y28mbb9m.fsf@zoho.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwvbl5l2iwn.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org

Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor wrote:

> Of course. If the compiler says it's "not known to be
> defined" that means the var isn't bound lexically (either
> that, or there's a bug in the compiler), so it can only make
> sense if the var is global or dynamically scoped (and both
> are closely related).

Check this out, here we seemingly define a global variable
which isn't special/dynamic (because `special-variable-p' says
it isn't) but it behaves like one anyway so I guess it is?
Maybe it (the predicate) can only look at the definition and
if it doesn't have an initial/default value it can't tell
... something?

;;; -*- lexical-binding: t -*-
;;;
;;; this file:
;;;   https://dataswamp.org/~incal/emacs-init/scope.el
;;;
;;; g  = global
;;; sd = special/dynamic
;;; ls = lexical/static
;;; v  = variable

(defvar gsd-v 1)            ; 1
(special-variable-p 'gsd-v) ; t

(defvar gls-v)
(setq gls-v 2)              ; 2
(special-variable-p 'gls-v) ; nil

(defun fun-lol ()
  (list gsd-v gls-v v) )

(setq lexical-binding nil)

(let ((gsd-v 100)
      (gls-v 200)
      (v     300) )
  (list (list gsd-v gls-v v)
        (fun-lol) )) ; ((100 200 300) (100 200 300))

(setq lexical-binding t)

(let ((gsd-v 100)
      (gls-v 200)
      (v     300) )
  (list (list gsd-v gls-v v)
        (fun-lol) )) ; DNC, lexical/static `let' binding v undefined in fun-lol

(defun fun-lol-2 ()
  (list gsd-v gls-v) )

(let ((gsd-v 100)
      (gls-v 200)
      (v     300) )
  (list (list gsd-v gls-v v)
        (fun-lol-2) )) ; ((100 200 300) (100 200))

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-08-28  1:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-14  3:34 Lexical vs. dynamic: small examples? Eduardo Ochs
2021-08-14  3:56 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-14  4:12   ` Eduardo Ochs
2021-08-14  7:35 ` tomas
2021-08-14 16:00   ` Eduardo Ochs
2021-08-14 19:41     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-14 20:42     ` tomas
2021-08-14 19:31   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-14 20:31     ` tomas
2021-08-14 21:26       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-14 21:29         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-14 13:35 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-14 16:15   ` Eduardo Ochs
2021-08-14 19:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-08-14 20:16   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-14 20:23     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-08-14 21:05       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-14 21:13         ` tomas
2021-08-14 21:28           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-14 20:41   ` tomas
2021-08-15  0:29   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-15  0:52     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15  1:04     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15  1:18     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15  4:44       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15  5:02         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 15:49         ` Drew Adams
2021-08-15 18:49           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 21:55             ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 22:04               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 21:57             ` Drew Adams
2021-08-15 22:20               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 22:54                 ` Drew Adams
2021-08-15 23:16               ` Drew Adams
2022-01-09  7:08                 ` Jean Louis
2022-01-09 15:03                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 23:42               ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-15 22:02             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-15 22:22               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 22:44                 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-21  3:38                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-24  2:08                     ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-25 23:34                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-25 23:40                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-26  0:10                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-26  0:44                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-26 17:01                               ` FW: " Drew Adams
2021-08-26 23:05                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-25 23:46                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-25 23:47                         ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-26  0:57                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-28  1:36                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [this message]
2021-08-28  1:41                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 22:44               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 22:58                 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 23:13                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 23:56                     ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-16  0:43                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-15 15:42       ` FW: " Drew Adams

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