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Contovounesios" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 2a73673 Change how thread-first/thread-last indent the first argument Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2021 15:50:28 +0100 Message-ID: <87y277le4r.fsf@tcd.ie> References: <87ee90vtye.fsf@alphapapa.net> <87czoj7wlk.fsf@gnus.org> <875yubx3rj.fsf@alphapapa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28072"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Adam Porter Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 05 17:07:27 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mXm2P-00070Y-Pa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 17:07:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32832 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXm2O-0007iy-1b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 11:07:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56862) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXlm9-0007h5-Ky for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 10:50:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-x32b.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::32b]:46639) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXlm7-0000cG-EY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 10:50:37 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-x32b.google.com with SMTP id o4-20020a05600c510400b0030d55d6449fso3101765wms.5 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 07:50:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tcd.ie; s=google21; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=YwRLVswtyMW6fD3MEu+F9klg5gjmAcsaZadcHmy2jsE=; b=KA3YEcIzAVZqB9hPJHsVkAV0MW1bV9aaLz0zswAopK5kvYzJffxw1dQmfHKGdv1Kfb B6v/dBw/JxMKjA/OaLch7O+lvEWytxcxhWNnzuHxA9veu8LEMHdtQptsjss3kosd+Fqh IQesmuwb1FXhyihgjsz1sUI1i0ouYeCo3kVsFS0+D4ul+Zm2nZewCppeuSuctCybVq0h MLzar9/lIHCPWs9dyJA3DEXz2GD78TDd/1JNr/P3WA6vc8Mpr9ZT6qwtUsvHaNRiH/a4 /uIz4V0J30JT+YSI8zhS4kPE/lM7rjgxwVyEXwCIRD8zOX+V1XXbSQTOe0sarULK+7u7 7CFQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=YwRLVswtyMW6fD3MEu+F9klg5gjmAcsaZadcHmy2jsE=; b=3sPAONZGP1rMikTSRNeNAt4kJiJ1RBtYJmyZe8BIwH1Hb43kDu+eregZW60yFuWEul ZRaUMly3oXsNjo8FDxxg2zozw1gKkW6DOIW5r/zJjIkVpcbvKm3qX4dn/1YM6gjXW4+2 yMWCIk4F4L2G2DdCYywxQNg09LiPhVeZQ+vB7s6rvpXbPHpZFY2ZrvocaIkdqsK+Jh88 em2eWfdugwkfUw8+Of1z75BdS/mzi+MW0OfBtgomKVVe5KvX1+UHVXJbm9kB24kiyObN xnDxtWHqp5Rv438WFYScKQuvPIqrSqoshMNFPAqeqeGp8SvNW9jfc768reF4z4f7C1pU tTaA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5322k13WHNxGgKIBNCysPs4u3yyNazClGJ2ZKtsKhPDMwDltWeJc rihEVetBjDMK3Ye+KnuxVbfcHg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxcFPaOK8yKJqtpH8Yaqvly01/ej9qOTxm7pkOg4CKMZtgTvl2tJ+hUmJhNg39HvRuEO8wCxQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:3b22:: with SMTP id m34mr3843754wms.130.1633445430437; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 07:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost ([80.233.62.216]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f19sm2259314wmf.11.2021.10.05.07.50.29 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 05 Oct 2021 07:50:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <875yubx3rj.fsf@alphapapa.net> (Adam Porter's message of "Tue, 05 Oct 2021 03:41:20 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::32b; envelope-from=contovob@tcd.ie; helo=mail-wm1-x32b.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276334 Archived-At: Adam Porter [2021-10-05 03:41 -0500] wrote: > You're right about Clojure. And, in fact, Dash.el does follow Clojure > there in its implementation of `->>', et al. However, earlier this > year, Basil adjusted its indentation to be in line with how > `thread-last' used to indent, with the first form indented more: > > https://github.com/magnars/dash.el/pull/375 > > And perhaps ironically, it was me who convinced him to revert that > change and restore the Clojure-like indentation. My reasoning was the > same as my second reason posted here: it results in lots of whitespace > churn downstream. > > At the same time, I agree with Basil that we need not follow Clojure's > conventions, and using first-form indentation is more useful. FWIW, the discussion you link is only the latest instance of Dash going back and forth on this issue: https://emacs.stackexchange.com/a/66623/15748 -- Basil