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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277894 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Philip Kaludercic >> Cc: stefan@marxist.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 17:52:56 +0000 >> >> If anything, I think XDG is becoming more and more popular since 2003, >> and I wouldn't know of any other serious contender to replace XDG. > > Yes, XDG is the current fashion. As were the ones before it. What time frames are we talking about? Fashion can be anything that remains popular for only a few months up until something that dominates the scene for years or decades. XDG appears to lean towards the latter. >> Generally I'd agree that it would be better to provide better support >> for the problem XDG solves, without having to use XDG directly for >> cross-platform compliance, but XDG is certainly preferable to >> hard-coding directories as is still done in Emacs. > > I wasn't suggesting we hard-code directories, I suggested something > quite different. I understood that, my point was that using XDG is preferable to that, and anything that abstracts over XDG might be even better. -- Philip Kaludercic