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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284225 Archived-At: >>>>> On Wed, 05 Jan 2022 17:17:12 +0800, LdBeth said: >>>>> In <87bl0q8vfa.fsf@yahoo.com>=20 >>>>>> Po Lu wrote: >> Most people were certainly happy for at least the past decade. LdBeth> I think saving custom set variables to init file somehow preven= ts LdBeth> using byte compiled init.el file effectively (unless the user h= ooks LdBeth> auto compile whenever it is changed by emacs). From that perspe= ctive, LdBeth> I'm happy to see that this behavior is to be changed. This is one of the two things that people do with Emacs that I just don=CA=BCt understand. My init file contains setq and custom-set-variables and key bindings. Any actual code that would benefit from byte-compilation is stored in separate files. So why do people byte-compile their init files? Robert --=20