Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Sharon Kimble]

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Just trying to export to latex this afternoon and this showed in the
mini-buffer -

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| (void-variable org-latex-babel-language-alist) in org-latex-template
- ----

and this showed in the debugger -

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|Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable org-latex-babel-language-alist)
|  org-latex--format-spec((:export-options nil :back-end #s(org-export-backend :name latex :parent nil :transcoders (... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...) :options (... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...) :filters (... ... ... ...) :blocks nil :menu (108 "Export to LaTeX" ...)) :translate-alist ((bold . org-latex-bold) (center-block . org-latex-center-block) (clock . org-latex-clock) (code . org-latex-code) (drawer . org-latex-drawer) (dynamic-block . org-latex-dynamic-block) (entity . org-latex-entity) (example-block . org-latex-example-block) (export-block . org-latex-export-block) (export-snippet . org-latex-export-snippet) (fixed-width . org-latex-fixed-width) (footnote-definition . org-latex-footnote-definition) (footnote-reference . org-latex-footnote-reference) (headline . org-latex-headline) (horizontal-rule . org-latex-horizontal-rule) (inline-src-block . org-latex-inline-src-block) (inlinetask . org-latex-inlinetask) (italic . org-latex-italic) (item . org-latex-item) (keyword . org-latex-keyword) (latex-environment . org-latex-latex-environment) (latex-fragment . org-latex-latex-fragment) (line-break . org-latex-line-break) (link . org-latex-link) (node-property . org-latex-node-property) (paragraph . org-latex-paragraph) ...) :exported-data #<hash-table eq 15332/20251 0x1587aafeff57> :input-buffer "kpe.org" :input-file "/home/boudiccas/research/w..." :latex-class "my-report" :latex-class-options "[a4paper,11pt,twoside,open..." :latex-header "\\input{/home/boudiccas/res..." :latex-header-extra nil :description nil :keywords nil :subtitle nil ...))
|  org-latex-template(#("\n\n\\chapter{Boo..." 11 25 ... 90 94 ... 96 138 ... 249 253 ... ...) (:export-options nil :back-end ... :translate-alist ... :exported-data #<hash-table eq 15332/20251 0x1587aafeff57> :input-buffer "kpe.org" :input-file "/home/boudicca..." :latex-class "my-report" ...))
|  org-export-as(latex nil nil nil (:output-file "kpe.tex"))
|  org-export-to-file(latex "kpe.tex" nil nil nil nil nil)
|  org-latex-export-to-latex()
|  funcall-interactively(org-latex-export-to-latex)
|  call-interactively(org-latex-export-to-latex nil nil)
|  command-execute(org-latex-export-to-latex)
- ----

I just updated my emacs's packages, and also my org-mode installation,
but its still failing such that I cannot export to latex like I have
been able to.

Thanks
    Sharon.    
- -- 
A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk
TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk
DrugFacts = https://www.drugfacts.org.uk
Debian 11, fluxbox 1.3.7, emacs 29.0.50, org 9.5.2
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Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Ihor Radchenko]

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> Just trying to export to latex this afternoon and this showed in the
> mini-buffer -
> - ----
> | (void-variable org-latex-babel-language-alist) in org-latex-template
> - ----

Please update again. The bug has been introduced recently, but should be
fixed on main already.

Best,
Ihor

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Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Sharon Kimble]

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Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:

>  Just trying to export to latex this afternoon and this showed in the
>  mini-buffer -
>  - ----
>  | (void-variable org-latex-babel-language-alist) in org-latex-template
>  - ----
>
> Please update again. The bug has been introduced recently, but should be fixed on main already.
>
> Best,
> Ihor

Thanks Ihor.

How can I install my new org-mode setup from git please? The only way
that I know of is to close emacs down, and then start it again.

So can you advise please?            

Thanks
    Sharon.    
- -- 
A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk
TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk
DrugFacts = https://www.drugfacts.org.uk
Debian 11, fluxbox 1.3.7, emacs 29.0.50, org 9.5.2
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Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Sharon Kimble]

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Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:

>  Just trying to export to latex this afternoon and this showed in the
>  mini-buffer -
>  - ----
>  | (void-variable org-latex-babel-language-alist) in org-latex-template
>  - ----
>
> Please update again. The bug has been introduced recently, but should be fixed on main already.
>
> Best,
> Ihor
Sorry, I forgot that I can do it from the menu. Now I've updated I get this error message -

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|   Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable org-link--description-folding-spec)
|      org-fold-initialize(" ▶▶▶")
|      org-mode()
|      #f(compiled-function () #<bytecode -0x2e9ea549cfbb7f8>)()
|      org-export-copy-buffer()
|      org-export-as(latex nil nil nil (:output-file "kpe.tex"))
|      org-export-to-file(latex "kpe.tex" nil nil nil nil nil)
|      org-latex-export-to-latex()
|      funcall-interactively(org-latex-export-to-latex)
|      call-interactively(org-latex-export-to-latex nil nil)
|      command-execute(org-latex-export-to-latex)   
- ----   

Any ideas please?

Thanks        
    Sharon.
- -- 
A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk
TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk
DrugFacts = https://www.drugfacts.org.uk
Debian 11, fluxbox 1.3.7, emacs 29.0.50, org 9.5.4
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Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Ihor Radchenko]

Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble09.plus.com> writes:

> Sorry, I forgot that I can do it from the menu. Now I've updated I get this error message -
>
> - ----    
> |   Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable org-link--description-folding-spec)
> |      org-fold-initialize(" ▶▶▶")

Please restart Emacs.

Best,
Ihor

Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Sharon Kimble]

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Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:

>  Just trying to export to latex this afternoon and this showed in the
>  mini-buffer -
>  - ----
>  | (void-variable org-latex-babel-language-alist) in org-latex-template
>  - ----
>
> Please update again. The bug has been introduced recently, but should be fixed on main already.
>
> Best,
> Ihor

Despite git pulling, etc, and restarting emacs, the problem still
remains.

This is on org-mode 'Org mode version 9.5.2 (release_9.5.2-25-gaf6f12 @
/home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp/)'

Any ideas please?

Thanks
    Sharon.    
- -- 
A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk
TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk
DrugFacts = https://www.drugfacts.org.uk
Debian 11, fluxbox 1.3.7, emacs 29.0.50, org 9.5.2
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Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Fraga, Eric]

> Despite git pulling, etc, and restarting emacs, the problem still
> remains.
>
> This is on org-mode 'Org mode version 9.5.2 (release_9.5.2-25-gaf6f12 @
> /home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp/)'

Sharon,

this looks like an old version (see my signature for a more recent version number).  Maybe you have a mixed installation?

-- 
: Eric S Fraga, with org release_9.5.4-648-gdf1814 in Emacs 29.0.50

Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Ihor Radchenko]

Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble09.plus.com> writes:

> Despite git pulling, etc, and restarting emacs, the problem still
> remains.
>
> This is on org-mode 'Org mode version 9.5.2 (release_9.5.2-25-gaf6f12 @
> /home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp/)'
>
> Any ideas please?

Org 9.5.2 is a relatively old Org version. However, the error you are
getting was introduced in development version of Org (9.5.4+).
I suspect that you are loading some part of Org distribution from other
place. Not the Git folder you fetched.

Please make sure that you set the load-path for Org correctly early in
your config before you load Org or any package depending on Org.

Best,
Ihor

Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Sharon Kimble]

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Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:

> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble09.plus.com> writes:
>
>> Despite git pulling, etc, and restarting emacs, the problem still
>> remains.
>>
>> This is on org-mode 'Org mode version 9.5.2 (release_9.5.2-25-gaf6f12 @
>> /home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp/)'
>>
>> Any ideas please?
>
> Org 9.5.2 is a relatively old Org version. However, the error you are
> getting was introduced in development version of Org (9.5.4+).
> I suspect that you are loading some part of Org distribution from other
> place. Not the Git folder you fetched.
>
> Please make sure that you set the load-path for Org correctly early in
> your config before you load Org or any package depending on Org.
>
> Best,
> Ihor

Thanks Ihor.

I eventually tracked down that I was loading org-mode from '/usr/local/share/emacs/29.0.50/lisp/org/'.

So I've done a 'make clean', and then configured and built emacs to run from bootstrap, and now my org-version shows as 'Org mode version 9.5.2 (release_9.5.2-25-gaf6f12 @ /home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp/)'.

However, if I build org-mode from git it shows as 'org-loaddefs: 9.5.4 (release_9.5.4-682-g5be0c7).

So I've rebooted and now emacs is showing my org-version as still 'Org mode version 9.5.2 (release_9.5.2-25-gaf6f12 @ /home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp/)'.

So I've looked at my config file, and the first time that org is mentioned is -
=====
** installation
#+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :tangle "~/.emacs.d/init.el" :exports code :results silent
;;; init.el --- sharon's config -*- eval: (read-only-mode 1) -*-
(require 'package)
(setq package-enable-at-startup nil)
(package-initialize)

(require 'ob-tangle)
(org-babel-load-file "~/.emacs.d/config22.org")
#+END_SRC
=====
and the first time that org-mode is mentioned is -                 
=====
** set pathways

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
;;(setq load-path (cons "~/.emacs.d/lisp" load-path))
;; This sets up the load path so that we can override it
(package-initialize nil)
;; Override the packages with the git version of Org and other packages
;;(add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "/home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/"))
(add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "/home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp"))
(add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "/home/boudiccas/git/org-contrib/lisp"))
;; Load the rest of the packages
(add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "/home/boudiccas/.emacs.d/lisp"))
;; (add-to-list 'load-path "/home/boudiccas/.emacs.d/personal-elisp")
;; (add-to-list 'load-path "/home/boudiccas/.emacs.d/test")
(add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "/home/boudiccas/.emacs.d/elpa"))
;; (add-to-list 'load-path "/home/boudiccas/git")
(setq custom-file "/home/boudiccas/.emacs.d/lisp/custom.el")

(load custom-file)
#+end_src
=====

So how can I load the correct org-mode please?            

Thanks
    Sharon.    
- -- 
A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk
TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk
DrugFacts = https://www.drugfacts.org.uk
Debian 11, fluxbox 1.3.7, emacs 29.0.50, org 9.5.2
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Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Fraga, Eric]

On Wednesday, 27 Jul 2022 at 16:20, Sharon Kimble wrote:
> So I've looked at my config file, and the first time that org is mentioned is -

So you use org-babel-load-file *before* you set the load-path.  Move the
two lines that set the load path for org to before you use
org-babel-load-path.  In my own init files, setting the path to org is
the first thing I do.

-- 
: Eric S Fraga, with org release_9.5.4-648-gdf1814 in Emacs 29.0.50

Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Tim Cross]

Note that identifying when org is loaded is not always
straight-forward. There are lots of packages which include org support
which can result in org being loaded as a side effect when you load
them. This is especially true of non-core packages which will use
explicit require statements rather than relying on autoloads etc.

For this reason, I always ensure that anything relating to org source
paths etc is loaded as early as possible. 

Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble09.plus.com> writes:

>
> So I've looked at my config file, and the first time that org is mentioned is -
> =====
> ** installation
> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :tangle "~/.emacs.d/init.el" :exports code :results silent
> ;;; init.el --- sharon's config -*- eval: (read-only-mode 1) -*-
> (require 'package)
> (setq package-enable-at-startup nil)
> (package-initialize)
>
> (require 'ob-tangle)
> (org-babel-load-file "~/.emacs.d/config22.org")
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is when org is being loaded as ob-tangle is part of org. This will
mean the built-in/bundled version of org is loaded.

> #+END_SRC
> =====
> and the first time that org-mode is mentioned is -                 
> =====
> ** set pathways
>
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
> ;;(setq load-path (cons "~/.emacs.d/lisp" load-path))
> ;; This sets up the load path so that we can override it
> (package-initialize nil)
> ;; Override the packages with the git version of Org and other packages
> ;;(add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "/home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/"))
> (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "/home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp"))
> (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "/home/boudiccas/git/org-contrib/lisp"))
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This isn't going to work as you hope. You have already loaded org mode
when you called (require 'ob-tangle),

so what this is doing is adding an additional path to a latter version
of org which is going to result in a 'mixed' version. This will cause
lots of issues.

You either  need to move the above lines *above* the require 'ob-tangle
or move the earlier lines to after these ones. I think earlier is better
when it comes to org as there are many packages which include org
support and which will load org as a hidden side effect. 

> ;; Load the rest of the packages
> (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "/home/boudiccas/.emacs.d/lisp"))
> ;; (add-to-list 'load-path "/home/boudiccas/.emacs.d/personal-elisp")
> ;; (add-to-list 'load-path "/home/boudiccas/.emacs.d/test")
> (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "/home/boudiccas/.emacs.d/elpa"))
> ;; (add-to-list 'load-path "/home/boudiccas/git")
> (setq custom-file "/home/boudiccas/.emacs.d/lisp/custom.el")
>
> (load custom-file)
> #+end_src
> =====
>
> So how can I load the correct org-mode please?            
>

I note your appear to be running both the development version of Emacs
as well as the git version of org mode. While this will give you the
most recent versions of both, it will also mean your working with the
most unstable versions of both. If you rely on org for your daily
workflow, I would recommend

1. Just running with the version of org bundled with Emacs. Being the
development version, it will stay reasonably up-to-date as you really
need to update and re-build Emacs every week or so anyway.

or

2. Just use the org from ELPA and org-contrib from non-GNU ELPA. These
are usually the most stable versions with bug fixes applied. This would
be my recommendation. 

I think few people actually need to run from the head of the git
repository. Your messages indicated that having a broken org
installation was a significant issue for you and getting the issues
resolved are quite urgent. Using the ELPA/non-GNU packages will ensure
you get important bug fixes while keeping your org version current with
the most recent stable version and is probably the best choice for
anyone who needs a reliable org for production/daily use. 

Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Sharon Kimble]

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Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:

> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble09.plus.com> writes:
>
>> Despite git pulling, etc, and restarting emacs, the problem still
>> remains.
>>
>> This is on org-mode 'Org mode version 9.5.2 (release_9.5.2-25-gaf6f12 @
>> /home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp/)'
>>
>> Any ideas please?
>
> Org 9.5.2 is a relatively old Org version. However, the error you are
> getting was introduced in development version of Org (9.5.4+).
> I suspect that you are loading some part of Org distribution from other
> place. Not the Git folder you fetched.
>
> Please make sure that you set the load-path for Org correctly early in
> your config before you load Org or any package depending on Org.
>
> Best,
> Ihor

After several rebuilds of emacs I'm now getting this line showing for
    org-version -

Org mode version 9.5.4 (release_9.5.4-17-g6e991f @ mixed installation!
    /home/boudiccas/git/emacs/lisp/org/ and
    /home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp/)

I want to stay with the git version of org-mode if possible, so how do I
    stop the emacs org from operating please?         

Thanks everyone
    Sharon.    
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Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Ihor Radchenko]

Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble09.plus.com> writes:

> After several rebuilds of emacs I'm now getting this line showing for
>     org-version -
>
> Org mode version 9.5.4 (release_9.5.4-17-g6e991f @ mixed installation!
>     /home/boudiccas/git/emacs/lisp/org/ and
>     /home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp/)
>
> I want to stay with the git version of org-mode if possible, so how do I
>     stop the emacs org from operating please?         

Try

#+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :tangle "~/.emacs.d/init.el" :exports code :results silent
;;; init.el --- sharon's config -*- eval: (read-only-mode 1) -*-
(require 'package)
(setq package-enable-at-startup nil)

;; Make sure that Git version of Org mode is being loaded instead of the
;; built-in version.
(add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "/home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp"))
(add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "/home/boudiccas/git/org-contrib/lisp"))

(package-initialize)

(require 'ob-tangle)
(org-babel-load-file "~/.emacs.d/config22.org")
#+END_SRC

Hope it helps.

Best,
Ihor

Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Sharon Kimble]

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Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:

> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble09.plus.com> writes:
>
>> After several rebuilds of emacs I'm now getting this line showing for
>>     org-version -
>>
>> Org mode version 9.5.4 (release_9.5.4-17-g6e991f @ mixed installation!
>>     /home/boudiccas/git/emacs/lisp/org/ and
>>     /home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp/)
>>
>> I want to stay with the git version of org-mode if possible, so how do I
>>     stop the emacs org from operating please?         
>
> Try
>
> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :tangle "~/.emacs.d/init.el" :exports code :results silent
> ;;; init.el --- sharon's config -*- eval: (read-only-mode 1) -*-
> (require 'package)
> (setq package-enable-at-startup nil)
>
> ;; Make sure that Git version of Org mode is being loaded instead of the
> ;; built-in version.
> (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "/home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp"))
> (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "/home/boudiccas/git/org-contrib/lisp"))
>
> (package-initialize)
>
> (require 'ob-tangle)
> (org-babel-load-file "~/.emacs.d/config22.org")
> #+END_SRC
>
> Hope it helps.
>

Thanks Ihor, its working well.

But, I'm unable to 'make autoloads' in the git version because its
    trying to connect to /usr/share/emacs and looking for something
    there which isn't there and just ends up deleting org-loaddefs, and the only way that
    I can get round it is by restoring git/org-mode from backup. 

Can you advise please as to how I can surmount that obstacle?

Thanks
    Sharon.    
- -- 
A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk
TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk
DrugFacts = https://www.drugfacts.org.uk
Debian 11, fluxbox 1.3.7, emacs 29.0.50, org 9.5.4
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Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Ihor Radchenko]

Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble09.plus.com> writes:

> But, I'm unable to 'make autoloads' in the git version because its
>     trying to connect to /usr/share/emacs and looking for something
>     there which isn't there and just ends up deleting org-loaddefs, and the only way that
>     I can get round it is by restoring git/org-mode from backup. 
>
> Can you advise please as to how I can surmount that obstacle?

I am not sure. make autoloads should have nothing to do with
/usr/share/emacs

What exactly happens when you run make autoloads?

Best,
Ihor

Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Sharon Kimble]

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Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:

> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble09.plus.com> writes:
>
>> But, I'm unable to 'make autoloads' in the git version because its
>>     trying to connect to /usr/share/emacs and looking for something
>>     there which isn't there and just ends up deleting org-loaddefs, and the only way that
>>     I can get round it is by restoring git/org-mode from backup. 
>>
>> Can you advise please as to how I can surmount that obstacle?
>
> I am not sure. make autoloads should have nothing to do with
> /usr/share/emacs
>
> What exactly happens when you run make autoloads?
>
> Best,
> Ihor

Morning all.
    
=====
foo$ git pull
- From https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/emacs/org-mode
   5be0c709b3..d37c0ee5fa  main       -> origin/main
Updating 5be0c709b3..d37c0ee5fa
Fast-forward
 lisp/org.el      | 2 +-
 lisp/ox-latex.el | 7 +++++--
 mk/org-fixup.el  | 2 +-
 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
    
foo$ make autoloads
make -C lisp autoloads
make[1]: Entering directory '/home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp'
rm -f org-version.el org-loaddefs.el org-version.elc org-loaddefs.elc org-install.elc
org-version: 9.5.4 (release_9.5.4-684-gd37c0e)
Warning: Lisp directory '/usr/local/share/emacs/29.0.50/lisp': No such file or directory
Cannot open load file: No such file or directory, loadup.el
make[1]: *** [Makefile:72: org-version.el] Error 255
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp'
make: *** [mk/targets.mk:133: autoloads] Error 2
=====

Does this help please?

Thanks
    Sharon.    
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Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Robert Pluim]

>>>>> On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 09:48:09 +0100, Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble09.plus.com> said:

    Sharon> Morning all.
    
    Sharon> =====
    Sharon> foo$ git pull
    Sharon> From https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/emacs/org-mode
    Sharon>    5be0c709b3..d37c0ee5fa  main       -> origin/main
    Sharon> Updating 5be0c709b3..d37c0ee5fa
    Sharon> Fast-forward
    Sharon>  lisp/org.el      | 2 +-
    Sharon>  lisp/ox-latex.el | 7 +++++--
    Sharon>  mk/org-fixup.el  | 2 +-
    Sharon>  3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
    
    Sharon> foo$ make autoloads
    Sharon> make -C lisp autoloads
    Sharon> make[1]: Entering directory '/home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp'
    Sharon> rm -f org-version.el org-loaddefs.el org-version.elc org-loaddefs.elc org-install.elc
    Sharon> org-version: 9.5.4 (release_9.5.4-684-gd37c0e)
    Sharon> Warning: Lisp directory '/usr/local/share/emacs/29.0.50/lisp': No such file or directory
    Sharon> Cannot open load file: No such file or directory, loadup.el
    Sharon> make[1]: *** [Makefile:72: org-version.el] Error 255
    Sharon> make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp'
    Sharon> make: *** [mk/targets.mk:133: autoloads] Error 2
    Sharon> =====

What does your local.mk contain? I donʼt think the default org
makefile references loadup.el anywhere.

Robert
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Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Sharon Kimble]

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Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:

>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 09:48:09 +0100, Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble09.plus.com> said:
>
>     Sharon> Morning all.
>     
>     Sharon> =====
>     Sharon> foo$ git pull
>     Sharon> From https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/emacs/org-mode
>     Sharon>    5be0c709b3..d37c0ee5fa  main       -> origin/main
>     Sharon> Updating 5be0c709b3..d37c0ee5fa
>     Sharon> Fast-forward
>     Sharon>  lisp/org.el      | 2 +-
>     Sharon>  lisp/ox-latex.el | 7 +++++--
>     Sharon>  mk/org-fixup.el  | 2 +-
>     Sharon>  3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>     
>     Sharon> foo$ make autoloads
>     Sharon> make -C lisp autoloads
>     Sharon> make[1]: Entering directory '/home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp'
>     Sharon> rm -f org-version.el org-loaddefs.el org-version.elc org-loaddefs.elc org-install.elc
>     Sharon> org-version: 9.5.4 (release_9.5.4-684-gd37c0e)
>     Sharon> Warning: Lisp directory '/usr/local/share/emacs/29.0.50/lisp': No such file or directory
>     Sharon> Cannot open load file: No such file or directory, loadup.el
>     Sharon> make[1]: *** [Makefile:72: org-version.el] Error 255
>     Sharon> make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp'
>     Sharon> make: *** [mk/targets.mk:133: autoloads] Error 2
>     Sharon> =====
>
> What does your local.mk contain? I donʼt think the default org
> makefile references loadup.el anywhere.
>
Thanks for replying Robert.

=====

# Remove "oldorg:" to switch to "all" as the default target.
# Change "oldorg:" to an existing target to make that target the default,
# or define your own target here to become the default target.
oldorg:	# do what the old Makefile did by default.

##----------------------------------------------------------------------
##  CHECK AND ADAPT THE FOLLOWING DEFINITIONS
##----------------------------------------------------------------------

# Name of your emacs binary
EMACS	= emacs

# Where local software is found
prefix	= /usr/local/share

# Where local lisp files go.
lispdir= $(prefix)/emacs/site-lisp/org

# Where local data files go.
datadir = $(prefix)/emacs/etc/org

# Where info files go.
infodir = $(prefix)/info

# Define if you only need info documentation, the default includes html and pdf
#ORG_MAKE_DOC = info # html pdf

# Define which git branch to switch to during update.  Does not switch
# the branch when undefined.
GIT_BRANCH = 

# Where to create temporary files for the testsuite
# respect TMPDIR if it is already defined in the environment
TMPDIR ?= /tmp
testdir = $(TMPDIR)/tmp-orgtest

# Configuration for testing
# add options before standard load-path
BTEST_PRE   =
# add options after standard load path
BTEST_POST  =
              # -L <path-to>/ert      # needed for Emacs23, Emacs24 has ert built in
              # -L <path-to>/ess      # needed for running R tests
              # -L <path-to>/htmlize  # need at least version 1.34 for source code formatting
BTEST_OB_LANGUAGES = awk C fortran maxima lilypond octave perl python
              # R                     # requires ESS to be installed and configured
              # ruby                  # requires inf-ruby to be installed and configured
# extra packages to require for testing
BTEST_EXTRA =
              # ess-site  # load ESS for R tests
# See default.mk for further configuration options.
=====

Does this help? Its been a very long time since I looked at it, and I don't think that I changed anything in it then.

Thanks
    Sharon.
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Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Robert Pluim]

>>>>> On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 13:24:46 +0100, Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble09.plus.com> said:
    >> What does your local.mk contain? I donʼt think the default org
    >> makefile references loadup.el anywhere.
    >> 

    Sharon> Does this help? Its been a very long time since I looked at it, and I don't think that I changed anything in it then.

Hmm, that doesnʼt reference loadup.el at all, which is normally passed
to temacs during the Emacs build process, not when running emacs
itself. Can you try removing the ʼ@ʼ from the start of the lines in
the recipe for $(LISPI) in lisp/Makefile and re-running the make? If
that contains loadup we need to figure out why.

Robert
-- 

Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Ihor Radchenko]

Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble09.plus.com> writes:

> foo$ git pull
> - From https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/emacs/org-mode
>    5be0c709b3..d37c0ee5fa  main       -> origin/main
> Updating 5be0c709b3..d37c0ee5fa
> Fast-forward
>  lisp/org.el      | 2 +-
>  lisp/ox-latex.el | 7 +++++--
>  mk/org-fixup.el  | 2 +-
>  3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>     
> foo$ make autoloads

Considering that you have a questionable local.mk, I suggested trying
cloning the Org repo from scratch. Just in case.

If that does not work, I suspect that you have some peculiar Emacs
installation. The error you are getting appears like Emacs compilation
wrongly set the environment somehow. It is the first time I am seeing
such a strange error.

Best,
Ihor

[SOLVED] Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Sharon Kimble]

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Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:

> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble09.plus.com> writes:
>
>> foo$ git pull
>> - From https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/emacs/org-mode
>>    5be0c709b3..d37c0ee5fa  main       -> origin/main
>> Updating 5be0c709b3..d37c0ee5fa
>> Fast-forward
>>  lisp/org.el      | 2 +-
>>  lisp/ox-latex.el | 7 +++++--
>>  mk/org-fixup.el  | 2 +-
>>  3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>     
>> foo$ make autoloads
>
> Considering that you have a questionable local.mk, I suggested trying
> cloning the Org repo from scratch. Just in case.
>
> If that does not work, I suspect that you have some peculiar Emacs
> installation. The error you are getting appears like Emacs compilation
> wrongly set the environment somehow. It is the first time I am seeing
> such a strange error.
>
    
Thank you to all who've been trying to sort out my problem, but I think that I've found the solution.

I have now rebuilt emacs with this bog-standard setup -

===
/autogen.sh
/configure
make
sudo make install
===

and it then builds org-loaddefs with zero problems.

My previous build was using this setup -

===
/autogen.sh
/configure
make bootstrap
make
===

And I suspect that the lone 'make' caused the problems, but I haven't done a test build to try it out.

I don't know where I got the bootstrap build mantra from, I must've found it online somewhere some time ago.

But thank you to all who tried to find a solution.

Thanks
    Sharon.          
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Re: [SOLVED] Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Robert Pluim]

>>>>> On Sat, 30 Jul 2022 08:25:46 +0100, Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble09.plus.com> said:
    Sharon> ===
    Sharon> /autogen.sh
    Sharon> /configure
    Sharon> make bootstrap
    Sharon> make
    Sharon> ===

    Sharon> And I suspect that the lone 'make' caused the problems, but I haven't done a test build to try it out.

    Sharon> I don't know where I got the bootstrap build mantra from, I must've found it online somewhere some time ago.

If youʼve got a completely clean Emacs checkout, then thereʼs no real
difference between 'make' and 'make bootstrap'. The thing to know
about 'make bootstrap' is that you donʼt need to run 'make' again
afterwards, since everything will already have been built.

    Sharon> But thank you to all who tried to find a solution.

Iʼm glad you sorted it.

Robert
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Re: Something has happened such that I can't export to latex

[Tim Cross]

Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble09.plus.com> writes:

> [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]]
> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble09.plus.com> writes:
>>
>>> But, I'm unable to 'make autoloads' in the git version because its
>>>     trying to connect to /usr/share/emacs and looking for something
>>>     there which isn't there and just ends up deleting org-loaddefs, and the only way that
>>>     I can get round it is by restoring git/org-mode from backup. 
>>>
>>> Can you advise please as to how I can surmount that obstacle?
>>
>> I am not sure. make autoloads should have nothing to do with
>> /usr/share/emacs
>>
>> What exactly happens when you run make autoloads?
>>
>> Best,
>> Ihor
>
> Morning all.
>     
> =====
> foo$ git pull
> From https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/emacs/org-mode
>    5be0c709b3..d37c0ee5fa  main       -> origin/main
> Updating 5be0c709b3..d37c0ee5fa
> Fast-forward
>  lisp/org.el      | 2 +-
>  lisp/ox-latex.el | 7 +++++--
>  mk/org-fixup.el  | 2 +-
>  3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>     
> foo$ make autoloads
> make -C lisp autoloads
> make[1]: Entering directory '/home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp'
> rm -f org-version.el org-loaddefs.el org-version.elc org-loaddefs.elc org-install.elc
> org-version: 9.5.4 (release_9.5.4-684-gd37c0e)
> Warning: Lisp directory '/usr/local/share/emacs/29.0.50/lisp': No such file or directory
> Cannot open load file: No such file or directory, loadup.el
> make[1]: *** [Makefile:72: org-version.el] Error 255
> make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp'
> make: *** [mk/targets.mk:133: autoloads] Error 2
> =====
>
> Does this help please?
>

After you do a pull from git, I think you should always do a make clean
before trying anything else. The error is referencing a file which has
nothing to do with org, so I suspect something is wrong with your local
environment. I would also try

git clean -dxf

in the root of the org git tree just to ensure there are no files there
which don't belong. Follow that with make clean and make.