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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296700 Archived-At: (Gah, wrong address again... I really should fix that ecomplete thing you suggested the other week, because otherwise "emacs-devel@gnus.org" is going to be my emacs-devel completion forever.) Stefan Monnier writes: > So it makes no sense to force people through (key-parse (key-description > )) when they have a low-level vector keysequence to start with. The sense it makes is that `key-parse' takes one and only one syntax -- which is easy to conceptualise. If they have a key representation in a different format (for historical or other reasons), they should translate that to the advertised format like that. We've been over this before, several times. I understand that you disagree, but you're not saying anything new.