From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Colin Baxter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Gnus: Blocked message to gmail addresses Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2023 18:13:39 +0000 Message-ID: <87y1plmcoc.fsf@yandex.com> References: <86cz6xmsxr.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <87cz6xcmrm.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> Reply-To: m43cap@yandex.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4841"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: "H. 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Dieter Wilhelm" writes: >> Hello Gnus >> >> now it's the second time that I couldn't send a mail to >> (multiple) gmail addresses. I've received a mail from the >> provider 1and1.de's mail delivery system saying >> "dieter@duenehof-wilhelm.de" is blocked from gmail with >> authentication problems (SPF and DKIM). I checked sending with >> the webmailer of 1und1.de and there sending to (some) gmail >> addresses worked and then - strangely - resending the very same >> problematic mail from Gnus seems to have work!? > Hi, > It looks like a greylisting behaviour: sending from the webmail > puts you in "ok" list for a certain time... That being said, who > knows what google does with mails these days. > Maybe your providers is not configured the same between the > webmail and their SMTP access. You could try to see if everything > (SPF, DKIM, DMARC) is in place by using a site such as > https://www.mail-tester.com/ and sending a mail from Gnus there. > -- Manuel Giraud mail-tester is more than likely to verify your email address. A similar thing happens to me if I try to email a google address. Google automatically classes email from yandex as spam and will not forward it to the intended recipient. There is nothing I can do about it except perhaps to urge people not to use gmail. And of course that wont fly. Best of luck. Colin.