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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310656 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > Philip Kaludercic writes: > >>>> I had a look at vc-clone and a few vc-*-clone. They seem trivial >>>> enough to backport, either as part of Compat or in package-vc.el. >> >> I have put some more though into this, and I don't think adding the new >> VC functionality to Compat or package-vc.el would be a good idea. >> Beside vc-clone we would also need `vc-prepare-patch' and the >> "last-change" method. What would be imaginable would be to add the >> package to ELPA and make it depend on Emacs 29? Would that sound >> useful? > > What happened to this? package-vc is still not on ELPA, is it? I have posted an update in another thread: https://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2023-08/msg00667.html. To summarise, if you take a look at the feature/elpa-package branch you'll find the changes necessary to add both package.el and package-vc.el to ELPA. I have been wanting for confirmation from above=E2=84=A2 before progressing with the idea. There were some objections to adding package.el to ELPA, in case package.el breaks itself when updating, but I hope that that issue should be handled by adding a verbatim autoloaded function that can be used to remove the local package.el installation. Of course if the complains remain, we can also just add package-vc.el to ELPA. > I can't see any replies to the question you asked above, but FWIW I > think requiring Emacs 29 is fine if backporting is too much of a hassle. Agree. > Note that Debian stable is still on Emacs 28, so presumably that is what > will be available in many Debian derivative distros for the next year or > two. That may or may not be a factor in your decision here. --=20 Philip Kaludercic