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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:315355 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > If a consensus cannot be reached, obey tradition. > > And don't say your proposed, untested solution should replace > something that has been operational for over a decade and is > used even as we speak. > > What you can say is "Hey, we have something interesting here, > take a look, hopefully it will gain traction if people are > appealed by it". > > But you are not saying that because you yourself are not > confident cond* really has any such advantages over `pcase' to > motivate anything close to this kind of > confrontational approach. I can't so much as understand pcase forms, let alone debate the fine technical details that certain participants in this thread insist demonstrate the superiority of pcase over cond*. That is a glaring problem in its own right! But if you read my words carefully, it will be apparent that all I have asked is that people refrain from contriving reasons to exclude cond* from Emacs. Richard already made up his mind, yet with the perplexing and disproportionate flurry of hostility which has been provoked, all that now hangs in the balance.