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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:316321 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > With "zero cost to each developer", the package now lies in a state > which cannot be called "well-maintained". > > So not only that means that the cost to have it in good state is When few bug reports arrive and the package doesn't figure in our work except when it attracts as to its apparent inactivity, the package is either in a good state or does not require our attention by virtue of disuse. So this is not a problem at all.