From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sean Whitton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Question about `cond*' Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 12:14:16 +0800 Message-ID: <87y135257r.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> References: <864j5v3jdd.fsf@gnu.org> <8734lfhet5.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5354"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Philip Kaludercic , michelangelo.rodriguez@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 03 06:15:13 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1swDFA-0001EE-Ru for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 06:15:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1swDEU-0001CC-9W; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 00:14:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1swDEQ-0001B3-KR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 00:14:26 -0400 Original-Received: from sendmail.purelymail.com ([34.202.193.197]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1swDEO-0003sM-Ky for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 00:14:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=k7g6n5Hhbj3cLOz5ybjnSn3fyPzn59HDdVJbEPvZTakM1y/1beB7UM1Yw2ESh+35/9dP2JTINiFE+eJ7vxz1Zl9X4V9RefiVeilaRvVdL209fasiEvmAyzxT+sQaTWVLBM33xpMeutCUJUZ+r2dMRH+uAL7Cl2amoa16REaXA0Vd2XvwCagUxnjjqLIMq48Y17EULCDs3/09cbUv4nGSJH4woWezKXuYDtkKwkN2cvTVQfXzpsXp/Usnix4kTDsLgjZFWXJN8aV36aGVPKQ7ZIKEg8MyqC0CY8E6VB+nL7hAPFZjDCGH9fDbwdU1jriZrbng6VXYYj+DSPVODgylmQ==; s=purelymail2; d=spwhitton.name; v=1; bh=tWb1Wz7SqMaxxJFBxKuavctc+K5vupyt7YtjXB3TUJM=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=jZdcSvPmFWhddWU2fMjn6hteVT52GTKoKus2Q+0tGYW5LRosBl7wZJ7rTfUq9LSOAfC3k+GMYYFBNHMebB/qk77UbP2i4ndC8NfJnAxAwLmH4wRznpGoyS126dI4zDxZowh3cGSlTV6GKmqMW3eShkBVBlNQuzUcEBIURlk8usfUK5DwIo0MFWf8q3mQymFbxos6lVsPWIgKUpyHZjYX5kFKv80+K0XxhE2R4nV/BoTmUqgOl/7ca5MwuULBfPOdQe1aSjRbN62+NZnSd60aV8AWUKJkRIx+8UxT8go0Usw5Q7zjLTWVzNA7qPON0QZgVcTaANKgeRoacZoi3JqiTA==; s=purelymail2; d=purelymail.com; v=1; bh=tWb1Wz7SqMaxxJFBxKuavctc+K5vupyt7YtjXB3TUJM=; h=Feedback-ID:Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; Feedback-ID: 20115:3760:null:purelymail X-Pm-Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: by smtp.purelymail.com (Purelymail SMTP) with ESMTPSA id -532693048; (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384); Thu, 03 Oct 2024 04:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: by melete.silentflame.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E47B37E07B9; Thu, 3 Oct 2024 12:14:16 +0800 (CST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 02 Oct 2024 23:35:20 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=34.202.193.197; envelope-from=spwhitton@spwhitton.name; helo=sendmail.purelymail.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:324264 Archived-At: Hello, On Wed 02 Oct 2024 at 11:35pm -04, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > I can only assume it was a mistake. The question is should the feature > > be called `cond-star' or `cond*'. > > I think `cond*' is a more natural name for the feature. > That is what users will think of -- to do (require 'cont-star) > would require a little extra bit of trivial knowledge. > > I called the file `cond-star.el' to avoid the inconvenience that > an asterisk in the file name could cause. But it woukd be better > if users did not have to know that file name. > > `cond*' really ought to be preloaded. Given that it isn't used in a single place yet, and we have repeatedly refused to preload cl-lib, that does not seem appropriate. -- Sean Whitton