From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Jacobson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: modeline doesn't divulge buffer will go bye bye Date: 19 Jun 2002 10:55:49 +0800 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <87wuswht8q.fsf@jidanni.org> Reply-To: Kindly_Remove_This_jidanni@ms46.hinet.net NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1024468586 20214 127.0.0.1 (19 Jun 2002 06:36:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 06:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17KZ4s-0005Fv-00 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:36:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17KZ4w-00014c-00; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 02:36:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailbox2.ucsd.edu ([132.239.1.54]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17KZ2e-0000qK-00 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 02:34:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.fu-berlin.de (mail.fu-berlin.de [160.45.11.165]) by mailbox2.ucsd.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g5J6Y6tl027353 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 23:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by mail.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.2.0.98) from Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (160.45.10.36) with esmtp id ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:34:05 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: by Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from news.fu-berlin.de with bsmtp id ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:34:05 +0200 (MEST) Original-To: gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.isc.org Original-Path: 61-227-44-196.hinet-ip.hinet.NET!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug Original-Lines: 23 X-Orig-NNTP-Posting-Host: 61-227-44-196.hinet-ip.hinet.net (61.227.44.196) X-Orig-X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1024468445 9367596 61.227.44.196 (16 [99749]) X-Orig-Path: 127.0.0.1!nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:2141 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:2141 After using this ~20 years it dawns on me: The modeline of a buffer with an associated file and that with no associated file look the same. Bad. Buffer A has maximal autosaving, you name it, cutting edge in safety, all because it is associated with a file. Buffer B will go bye bye when you quit emacs, no matter what you put in it. Their modelines will never tell you that, gotta hit C-x C-b and look around. It seems B should have something in the modeline close to the left edge reminding one about the situation. Yes I know that most are *blabla*, but I'm talking about ones I create with C-x b blabla. OK, I don't do that too much, but that's not the point. The point is that the modeline tells you all the little stuff. The most important thing, the fact that this buffer will go bye bye without a trace is not mentioned there! -- http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780