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From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: Masatake YAMATO <jet@gyve.org>, Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>,
	"Jan D." <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>, Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: raise-frame doesn't work in Fedora Core 4
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:15:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wt6e7o7s.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvodrstiu8.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue\, 31 Oct 2006 14\:01\:52 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>>   Rationale: XSetInputFocus is not sufficient, since the window may be
>>   hidden on another virtual desktop ( in that case XSetInputFocus
>>   fails with a BadWindow error )
>
> I don't understand: AFAICT the OP's problem is that `raise-frame' does not
> actually raise the frame.  But `raise-frame' calls XRaiseWindow, which seems
> like it should raise the frame, don't you think?
> XSetInputFocus seems unrelated (especially since `raise-frame' doesn't call
> it AFAIK).
>
> In other words, to me it seems that if `raise-frame' requires this
> _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW footwork to work, it's a bug either in the WM or in the
> wm-spec: `XRaiseWindow' should do just what it says, i.e. raise the window.
> But maybe there's a rationale for this, so it's just a misfeature needed for
> some odd reason.  In that case I'd be interested to hear what's the reason
> (and if the reason has to do with input-focus, I'll need more info to
> understand what's the relationship with raise-frame).

If you really want to know the answer, the logical thing is to ask at
wm-spec-list@gnome.org (to post to that list you need to subscribe at
wm-spec-list-request@gnome.org, or subscribe to the no-traffic list
post-only@gnome.org).  If you want to summarize the situation and ask
the folks there, that'd be great.

(Though my money is on "misfeature needed for some odd reason"; I
think we should just apply the patch if it demonstrably works,
especially since it shouldn't have any harmful effects.)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-11-01 23:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-31 11:12 raise-frame doesn't work in Fedora Core 4 Kenichi Handa
2006-10-31 11:57 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2006-10-31 12:24   ` Jan Djärv
2006-10-31 15:37   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-10-31 17:19     ` Jan D.
2006-10-31 19:01       ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-01  7:08         ` Jan Djärv
2006-11-01 23:15         ` Chong Yidong [this message]
2006-11-01 23:21           ` David Kastrup
2006-11-02 16:48             ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-02 21:47             ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-01  3:50     ` Masatake YAMATO
2006-11-01  4:51       ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2006-11-01  2:14   ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-01  7:28     ` Jan Djärv
2006-11-01 16:43     ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-02  4:43       ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-02  7:56         ` Jan Djärv
2006-11-02 16:45           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-03  7:54             ` Jan D.
2006-11-03  8:55           ` Jan D.
2006-11-03  8:59   ` Jan D.
2006-11-09 10:27     ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2006-11-01  2:14 ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-01  7:24   ` Jan Djärv
2006-11-02  4:42     ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-02  7:30       ` Jan Djärv
2006-11-02  8:23         ` David Kastrup
2006-11-03  7:07         ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-02 17:46 ` Chip Coldwell
2006-11-02 19:25   ` Chip Coldwell
     [not found] <b9yoe9xece4.fsf@jpl.org>
2005-06-27 23:41 ` raise-frame doesn't work in Fedora Core 4 (was Re: `make-frame' makes...) Katsumi Yamaoka
2005-06-28 15:48   ` raise-frame doesn't work in Fedora Core 4 Johan Bockgård
2007-09-14  6:24   ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-09-16 10:25     ` Jan Djärv

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