From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Initial splash screen (was Re: A wish, a plea) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 00:46:06 +0200 Message-ID: <87wsxv621d.fsf@escher.local.home> References: <4679F561.4030600@hacksaw.org> <87d4zomyiw.fsf@red-bean.com> <87fy4kjy0k.fsf@red-bean.com> <467AF6CC.2000300@gnu.org> <86ejk4jtno.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <87ir9g70eo.fsf_-_@escher.local.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182553379 28639 80.91.229.12 (22 Jun 2007 23:02:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:02:59 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 23 01:02:57 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I1s9Y-0002OI-2V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 01:02:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1s9X-0000Lt-Np for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:02:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1s9U-0000LG-Ko for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:02:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1s9T-0000L4-LW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:02:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1s9T-0000L1-G3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:02:51 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I1s9S-0008CM-Sn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:02:51 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1I1s0Q-0005VM-Ui for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 00:53:31 +0200 Original-Received: from i577bd24f.versanet.de ([87.123.210.79]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 00:53:30 +0200 Original-Received: from Stephen.Berman by i577bd24f.versanet.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2007 00:53:30 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: i577bd24f.versanet.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73675 Archived-At: On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:53:29 -0400 Richard Stallman wrote: > This may have been suggested before (I haven't searched the archives > for it), but since the issue has been raised again, what about this: > show the splash screen the first time the user invokes Emacs (even > with a file name) and ask whether to show it on the next invocation. > > I won't reject this, but I am not sure if it is really more > convenient. To have to answer the question may be more inconvenient > than to be shown the splash screen. People will say "turn it off" > because they don't want to be asked the question, not because of the > splash screen itself. You may be right; I don't know. But at least the question can force them to take notice of the splash screen. My suggestion is based on the assumption that newbies often overlook the information in the splash screen, precisely because it appears on each invocation and automatically disappears, like the typically uninformative splash screens of most GUI programs. I don't have data to support this assumption, but it doesn't seem too farfetched. > It might be better to make the splash screen mention > a command to set inhibit-splash-screen. That will make > it easier to turn it off, without annoying anyone. Assuming they in fact read it. Steve Berman