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From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>,
	lekktu@gmail.com, tzz@lifelogs.com,
	David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: inputting characters by hexadigit
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:03:35 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wsjdgd6r.fsf@jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvr69li7mw.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:53:06 -0400")

>> Just wondering... C-q 0x263a  doesn't seem so bad...
>
> C-x 8 0 2 6 3 a is just as short.  And if we can drop the 0, it's
> even shorter.

Using digits for the prefix key makes input too confusing.  In the middle
of the input sequence it is difficult to see what the current input number
is.  Is it "8 0 2 6" or "0 2 6 3" or, after dropping the 0, is it "8 2 6 3".
It is difficult for the user to visually parse such a key sequence and to
complete input.

Another drawback (that C-q currently has too) is an inability to edit
incomplete input.  This pushes us back to the era of dumb calculators
without the backspace key.

A more convenient method is to use the minibuffer to input the number.

-- 
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-07-23  9:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-15 17:41 describe-char should display the character's Unicode name Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-15 20:42 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-16  2:29   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-17  0:35     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-17  1:26       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-17 14:09         ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-17 23:40         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-18  0:10           ` Miles Bader
2008-07-18  0:47             ` inputting characters by hexadigit Kenichi Handa
2008-07-18  0:54               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-18  1:01               ` Miles Bader
2008-07-18  4:48               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-18 12:39                 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-18 16:17                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-18 17:33                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-18 18:08                       ` James Cloos
2008-07-18 18:59                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-18 21:29                           ` James Cloos
2008-07-19  0:30                             ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21  1:41                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-21  5:35                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-22 22:59                                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-22 23:17                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-22 23:29                                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-29 16:07                                 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-29 18:00                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-19  5:49                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-19  0:13                     ` Miles Bader
2008-07-19  0:29                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-19  0:27                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-20 20:28                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21  1:46                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-21  5:07                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21  6:04                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-21  9:01                             ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 11:04                               ` Johan Bockgård
2008-07-21 11:11                                 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 14:20                                   ` Johan Bockgård
2008-07-21 14:24                                     ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 14:33                                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-21 14:37                                         ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 19:25                               ` James Cloos
2008-07-21 19:53                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-21 20:23                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-07-21 20:38                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-21 21:49                                     ` Johan Bockgård
2008-07-21 22:03                                       ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 23:37                                         ` Johan Bockgård
2008-07-22  1:26                                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-22 22:52                                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 20:31                                   ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 20:36                                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21 20:43                                       ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 20:50                                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-21 21:12                                           ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 21:03                                         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-21 21:24                                           ` Drew Adams
2008-07-22  4:03                                           ` Miles Bader
2008-07-21 21:06                                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-22  4:04                                         ` Miles Bader
2008-07-21 20:31                                   ` James Cloos
2008-07-21 21:11                                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21 23:43                                 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-22  4:06                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-07-21 16:54                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21 17:04                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21  6:16                           ` David Kastrup
2008-07-22  0:51                         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-22  7:56                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-22  8:33                             ` Miles Bader
2008-07-22 10:57                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-22 12:26                               ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-22 12:33                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-22 12:35                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-07-22 16:16                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-22 16:54                                   ` Drew Adams
2008-07-22 20:38                                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-22 22:55                                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23  0:08                                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-23  2:18                                       ` Miles Bader
2008-07-22 22:54                                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23  0:28                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-07-23  1:02                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-23  2:32                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23  3:18                                       ` Miles Bader
2008-07-23  3:38                                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-23  3:53                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23  4:26                                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-23 19:19                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23 20:26                                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-23  9:03                                           ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2008-07-23 10:15                                             ` Miles Bader
2008-07-23 14:27                                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 14:58                                                 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-22 14:06                             ` Drew Adams
2008-07-23 13:01                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-23 13:05                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-23 13:44                                   ` Drew Adams
2008-07-23 14:27                                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 19:24                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23 22:32                                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-24  2:05                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-29 15:51                                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-29 17:33                                             ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-29 17:51                                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-29 19:55                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-29 20:51                                                   ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-30 15:29                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-31 19:20                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-18  0:38           ` describe-char should display the character's Unicode name Kenichi Handa
2008-07-18  0:58             ` Miles Bader
2008-07-18 13:33               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-18 13:53                 ` Drew Adams
2008-07-18 14:31                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-18 15:22                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-19  0:45                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 16:35                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-21 16:35                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-21 16:58                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-22 22:57                         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 14:47                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-23 22:31                             ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 22:52                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24 13:29                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 13:39                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2008-07-24 15:27                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 15:34                                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-25  0:41                                         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-25  2:24                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-19  0:35                 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-19  1:11                   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-20  0:29                     ` inputting characters by hexadigit Juri Linkov
2008-07-20  1:23                       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-20 20:27                         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 14:37                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-23 19:31                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23 20:19                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24  2:08                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-24 13:20                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 13:40                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2008-07-24 14:03                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-24 15:25                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 16:06                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-24 17:00                                           ` Drew Adams
2008-07-24 18:15                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 18:37                                               ` Drew Adams
2008-07-28 13:56                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 20:12                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-24 20:27                                               ` Drew Adams
2008-07-24 20:37                                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24 21:30                                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24 21:59                                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-28 14:00                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-23 22:35                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 23:00                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24  2:18                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-25  0:52                                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-24 13:24                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 15:55                                   ` Drew Adams
2008-07-19  0:35               ` describe-char should display the character's Unicode name Juri Linkov

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