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From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 23.0.60; Constant recentering with scroll-margin set
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:33:24 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wsilr6dn.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvtzdq9hh8.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:15:03 -0400")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> What do people think?  When there is a scroll-margin, should
>> move-to-window-line automagically move to the scroll-margin instead of
>> recentering?
>
> I never used it, neither interactively nor programmatically, so I don't
> have a strong opinion on that.  Reading the docstring I get the
> impression that the intention is to place the cursor at a particular
> location within the window, rather than to place point at a particular
> location within the buffer.  So that leads me to think that it should
> never cause recentering.  Maybe if the operation cannot be performed,
> the function should return the number of lines "left".

I use this function constantly -- I have simple wrappers bound to M-,
M-/ and M-. to move to the top, middle, and bottom of the window.

I almost never use a non-zero scroll-margin, so I don't have that much
experience with this problem, but I agree that it feels kind of weird if
move-to-window-line causes scrolling.

I kinda wish it would simply "disobey" the scroll-margin and locate the
cursor there without scrolling, but that probably isn't easy to
implement.

The suggested behavior of "stopping short", by having it move to line
(min (max N scroll-margin) (- window-height scroll-margin)) seems
reasonable interactively.

It might surprise some programmatic users, but on the other hand,
scrolling will probably surprise them too, so I guess there's really not
much you can do in that case; such code probably simply isn't prepared
to deal with a non-zero scroll-margin...

-Miles

-- 
`To alcohol!  The cause of, and solution to,
 all of life's problems' --Homer J. Simpson




  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-13  2:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-07  1:54 bug#662: 23.0.60; Constant recentering with scroll-margin set Chong Yidong
2008-08-07 18:21 ` Ralf Angeli
2008-08-07 18:41 ` Ralf Angeli
2008-08-08 18:32 ` Ralf Angeli
2008-08-08 20:56   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-12 18:51     ` Ralf Angeli
2008-08-09  1:00   ` OFFICE ZERO
2008-08-09  1:07   ` OFFICE ZERO
2008-08-09  1:30   ` Chong Yidong
2008-08-09  1:40     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-12 19:15     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-13  2:33       ` Miles Bader [this message]
2008-08-09 14:13   ` bug#662: " OFFICE ZERO

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