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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: acm@muc.de, cyd@stupidchicken.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Documentation of transient-mark-mode is sloppy, wrong, and confused.
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:09:12 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ws7wbt87.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83zlcw43nc.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii writes:
 > > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
 > > Eli Zaretskii writes:
 > > 
 > >  > > > email.  Sorry for the poor wording - it's late and I'm tired.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > I would find this fairly confusing
 > >  > 
 > >  > So would I.  If you read this text carefully, it actually says
 > >  > something like "the region is active when Emacs marks it as active."
 > >  > That's hardly a definition of what "active" is.
 > > 
 > > Read a little more carefully.  It also explains how the behavior of
 > > Emacs changes when the mark is active.  That *is* a definition of 
 > > "active".
 > 
 > Right, but that "definition-through-behavior" was exactly what Alan
 > opposed to in the first place!

No.  Alan objected to d-t-b where "behavior" refers to "how to make
Emacs 'activate' the mark" (behavior changes activity).  What he wants
is "how does Emacs's behavior change when the mark is 'active'?"
(activity changes behavior).  These are quite different.





  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-01  2:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-28 12:29 Documentation of transient-mark-mode is sloppy, wrong, and confused Alan Mackenzie
2009-05-28 16:54 ` Chong Yidong
2009-05-28 20:15   ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-05-28 20:48     ` Chong Yidong
2009-05-28 23:03       ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-05-28 23:53         ` Davis Herring
2009-05-29 11:01           ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-05-29  0:21         ` Chong Yidong
2009-05-29  1:55         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-05-29  4:30           ` Kevin Rodgers
2009-05-29  5:47             ` Andreas Roehler
2009-05-29  8:25               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-05-29  8:58                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-06-01  2:34                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-06-01  9:40                     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-06-02  6:23                     ` Andreas Roehler
2009-06-02 11:50                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-05-29  8:37           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-05-29  9:27             ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-05-29 10:11               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-05-29 13:13                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-05-29 14:19                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-05-29 16:40                   ` Drew Adams
2009-05-29 22:20                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-05-30  0:11                       ` Drew Adams
2009-05-29  9:55             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-05-29 10:14               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-06-01  2:09                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2009-05-29 10:45               ` Andreas Roehler
2009-05-29  8:38         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-05-29  9:35           ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-05-29  9:48             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-05-29 13:17               ` Alan Mackenzie

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