From: Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: message-mode is now default?
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:24:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ws65km15.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <873a8tc92j.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:32:04 +0200")
David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
> As long as message-mode is more in line with what a newcomer would
> expect, I don't see why we should strive to retain the previous
> behavior.
People are not trying to retain the previous behavior.
People are taking care of making the switch to message-mode a smooth
process. RMS expressed concerns about the code in message-mode. AMS
expressed concerns about the fact that the switch was not explicitely
(or not clearly) announced. These two concerns are just discarded by
the maintainers with the argument: "Making it the default is the best
way to make people work on message-mode".
I don't think forcing stuff is the right way to deal with defaults.
Same for `line-move-visual'. Requests for a poll have been silently
dismissed. Of course everyone can put (setq line-move-visual nil) in
her ~/.emacs, but if "customizing" and "debugging" are now synonyms,
Emacs should rather not be advertized as something that everyone wants
(or need?) to customize.
--
Bastien
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-19 10:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-17 12:43 message-mode is now default? Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-17 13:01 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-17 13:41 ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-18 8:59 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-17 14:14 ` Teemu Likonen
2009-07-17 15:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-17 20:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-18 8:59 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-18 0:29 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-18 1:19 ` Miles Bader
2009-07-18 5:51 ` Bastien
2009-07-18 6:52 ` Byung-Hee HWANG
2009-07-18 13:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-19 11:41 ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode (was: message-mode is now default?) Reiner Steib
2009-07-19 12:32 ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode Sven Joachim
2009-07-19 17:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-19 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-22 7:35 ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode (was: message-mode is now default?) Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-22 18:46 ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode Reiner Steib
2009-07-23 3:05 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-23 5:03 ` Miles Bader
2009-08-03 19:57 ` message-mode is now default? Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-04 6:12 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-18 13:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-18 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-18 15:11 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-18 15:33 ` David Kastrup
2009-07-18 15:44 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-18 16:44 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-18 18:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-19 0:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-19 9:09 ` David Kastrup
2009-07-19 10:52 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-19 11:10 ` David Kastrup
2009-07-19 11:16 ` Teemu Likonen
2009-07-19 14:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-20 12:33 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-20 13:29 ` Teemu Likonen
2009-07-20 14:20 ` Miles Bader
2009-07-20 16:32 ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-21 9:05 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-22 3:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-20 15:32 ` Reiner Steib
2009-07-19 17:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-21 9:05 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-21 10:13 ` Miles Bader
2009-07-23 13:46 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-19 4:37 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-19 4:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-19 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-19 23:21 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-19 4:59 ` Miles Bader
2009-07-19 23:21 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-20 16:46 ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-20 20:42 ` Reiner Steib
2009-07-19 8:07 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-19 9:32 ` David Kastrup
2009-07-19 10:24 ` Bastien [this message]
2009-07-19 10:52 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-19 11:56 ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode - sending mail (was: message-mode is now default?) Reiner Steib
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