From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scrollbar thumbs Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:11:37 +0900 Message-ID: <87ws2bkkgm.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <83skd1dta0.fsf@gnu.org> <87fx90ytzs.fsf@anzu.internal.golden-gryphon.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1257045123 13475 80.91.229.12 (1 Nov 2009 03:12:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 03:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 01 04:11:56 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N4QrC-00032Z-HH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:11:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40308 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N4QrB-0001P2-Rk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:11:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N4Qr6-0001NG-En for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:11:48 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N4Qr1-0001Ly-KH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:11:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41446 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N4Qr1-0001Lv-F3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:11:43 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.74]:48391) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N4Qqz-0001xT-HI; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:11:41 -0400 Original-Received: from 218.231.174.22.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.231.174.22] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1N4Qqw-0001BQ-KS; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:11:38 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C377CDF90; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:11:37 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:38:08 -0400") Original-Lines: 18 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:116540 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> I also find the scrollbar somewhat confusing: When the end of >> buffer is visible in the window, I would expect the scrollbar to reach >> all the way to the bottom, but it does not. > > It does with some GUI and not with others. In principle it should. > The only reason for it not to is to try and work around problems when > dragging the scrollbar thumb, where many GUI toolkits are absurdly > dogmatic and make it pretty much impossible for Emacs to do what > it should. Is it only GTK which is brain-damaged in this area? Do other toolkits do the same thing? -Miles -- Zeal, n. A certain nervous disorder afflicting the young and inexperienced.