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From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Unable to close a bug in the tracker.
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:09:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wrzkk9ix.fsf@red-bean.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ockwhh21.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:55:34 -0500")

Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> writes:
>Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com> writes:
>> Do we have general agreement here that our bug tracker would be better
>> if it *did* have a web UI that allowed commenting and state-changing?
>> I.e., the lack of these features is not considered a feature, right?
>
>It's probably not difficult to allow commenting from the web.  On the
>bug pages, we can just insert a "mailto" link after each comment, with
>the appropriate address and subject set up.

Web UIs have a reliable network connection between the user and the
system, such that when the user completes an action, they can see for
certain it has been done.  Email cannot achieve that reliability, not
even in principle, and clearly not in practice.

>I'm a leery of getting us a full-fledged user-registration+web-forms
>type solution.  We currently have a well-defined pathway for bug
>information, which works pretty well (e.g. it catches spam mostly
>correctly), and it would be nice not to deviate too much from it.

Unless we've gone through all our bounce logs to see the rate at which
legitimate mails are blocked, we have no idea how well this system is
working.

-K




  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-14 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-14  0:27 Unable to close a bug in the tracker Karl Fogel
2010-01-14  0:44 ` Miles Bader
2010-01-14  1:08   ` Karl Fogel
2010-01-14  1:21     ` Chong Yidong
2010-01-14  1:26       ` Karl Fogel
2010-01-14  2:09   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-14  2:08     ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-14 10:06     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-01-14  1:02 ` Chong Yidong
2010-01-14  1:08   ` Glenn Morris
2010-01-14  1:14     ` Karl Fogel
2010-01-14  1:16     ` Chong Yidong
2010-01-14  1:21       ` Karl Fogel
2010-01-14  1:59         ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-14  2:15           ` bug spam [was Re: Unable to close a bug in the tracker.] Glenn Morris
2010-01-14  4:45             ` bug spam Stefan Monnier
2010-01-14  5:21               ` Glenn Morris
2010-01-14  8:14                 ` Yavor Doganov
2010-01-14 15:23                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-14 17:14                   ` Glenn Morris
2010-01-14 17:16                     ` Glenn Morris
2010-01-14 18:08                       ` Chong Yidong
2010-01-14 18:37                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-15  3:59                         ` Glenn Morris
2010-01-19 19:15                           ` Glenn Morris
2010-01-19 19:29                             ` Chong Yidong
2010-01-19 20:42                               ` Glenn Morris
2010-01-19 21:01                                 ` Glenn Morris
2010-01-14 18:09                   ` Glenn Morris
2010-01-14  1:14   ` Unable to close a bug in the tracker Karl Fogel
2010-01-14  2:37     ` Miles Bader
2010-01-14  2:44       ` Glenn Morris
2010-01-14 12:24       ` Xavier Maillard
2010-01-14  1:19 ` Glenn Morris
2010-01-14  1:28   ` Karl Fogel
2010-01-14  1:41     ` Glenn Morris
2010-01-14 12:58       ` Karl Fogel
2010-01-14 15:35         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-14 15:47           ` Karl Fogel
2010-01-14 16:24             ` Deniz Dogan
2010-01-14 18:08             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-15  2:11               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-15  2:31                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-15  6:19             ` Miles Bader
2010-01-14  4:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-14  6:36   ` Glenn Morris
2010-01-14  8:54     ` bug threading [was Re: Unable to close a bug in the tracker] Glenn Morris
2010-01-14 15:24       ` bug threading Stefan Monnier
2010-01-14 12:59     ` Unable to close a bug in the tracker Karl Fogel
2010-01-14 14:55       ` Chong Yidong
2010-01-14 15:09         ` Karl Fogel [this message]
2010-01-14 17:04         ` Glenn Morris
2010-01-14 19:20       ` Xavier Maillard
2010-01-14  9:41 ` Deniz Dogan
2010-01-14 17:07   ` Glenn Morris
2010-01-14 18:54     ` Deniz Dogan
2010-01-14 19:22       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-15  3:59       ` Glenn Morris
2010-01-15 21:36   ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-16  4:02     ` Deniz Dogan
2010-01-16  8:10       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-16 11:02         ` Reiner Steib
2010-01-16 11:13           ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-18  3:06             ` Miles Bader
2010-01-18  4:13               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-18  5:29                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-19  0:06                 ` Glenn Morris
2010-01-16 20:57       ` Xavier Maillard
2010-01-16 21:09       ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-14 13:09 ` Getting full bug database dump? Karl Fogel
2010-01-14 14:47   ` Chong Yidong
2010-01-14 15:21   ` Michael Albinus
2010-01-14 15:31     ` Karl Fogel
2010-01-14 16:09       ` Michael Albinus
2010-01-14 16:20         ` Chong Yidong
2010-01-14 16:24           ` Michael Albinus
2010-01-14 16:37           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-14 19:33             ` Emacs interface to debbugs (was: Getting full bug database dump?) Reiner Steib
2010-01-14 20:35               ` Emacs interface to debbugs Michael Albinus
2010-01-14 21:25               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-14 18:00       ` Getting full bug database dump? Stefan Monnier
2010-01-14 19:56         ` Michael Albinus
2010-01-14 17:31   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-01-14 18:04     ` Karl Fogel

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