From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: AW: delete-selection-mode Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:51:02 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87wrxb57e1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <201003130001.o2D01FFQ003489@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87vdd1yqe4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87eijjzrkd.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> <874okf8dep.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <7697A57B1AD9104F993CDF6A5B69430C0A70E50872@CORPMAIL08.corp.capgemini.com> <4BA0CDF9.40707@online.de> <76682E4761EA432EB929E5E199B0F92A@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268837531 30450 80.91.229.12 (17 Mar 2010 14:52:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:52:11 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 17 15:52:07 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NrubO-0001Mj-26 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:52:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33797 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NrubN-0002bK-Im for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:52:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nruak-0002Uc-Qi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:51:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37974 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nruaj-0002UA-K9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:51:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nruai-0008C8-AM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:51:25 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:36946) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nruai-0008C3-2g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:51:24 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nruaa-0000mz-0k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:51:16 +0100 Original-Received: from p5b2c22cc.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.44.34.204]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:51:15 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by p5b2c22cc.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:51:15 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5b2c22cc.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:KClhA+wowqiNFBimzQUyghqrzPg= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122096 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: >> telling users ... about the advantage having delsel-mode off. > > There is none. You can set the mark, move somewhere else, type stuff there, and return using C-x C-x, again typing stuff there, without destroying anything you have written. The mark is, well, a _mark_. Something you can set temporarily easily, later to return. There is no other mechanism, even half as straightforward and easy to use, for doing that kind of thing. Your polemics are just showing that you have chosen to willfully ignore the others' position and the respective advantages they see in the current defaults. Is your position so weak that you have to resort to such tactics? -- David Kastrup