From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: AW: delete-selection-mode Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:10:39 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87wrxa2gow.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <201003130001.o2D01FFQ003489@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87vdd1yqe4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87eijjzrkd.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> <874okf8dep.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <7697A57B1AD9104F993CDF6A5B69430C0A70E50872@CORPMAIL08.corp.capgemini.com> <4BA0CDF9.40707@online.de> <76682E4761EA432EB929E5E199B0F92A@us.oracle.com> <87wrxb57e1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87tyse39qn.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268902312 10101 80.91.229.12 (18 Mar 2010 08:51:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:51:52 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 18 09:51:46 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsBSB-0006sQ-Li for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:51:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49233 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsBGZ-0002c6-G2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:39:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NsAsp-0005KP-3h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:15:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41953 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsAsn-0005JT-9p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:15:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsAsk-0002If-28 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:15:09 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:40871) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsAsj-0002IL-Sy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:15:06 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsAsh-0001iZ-ET for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:15:03 +0100 Original-Received: from p5b2c2262.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.44.34.98]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:15:03 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by p5b2c2262.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:15:03 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5b2c2262.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:pbRJceVGiuiu8qbGLcn6CPWzkcE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122147 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: >>>> telling users ... about the advantage having delsel-mode off. >>> >>> There is none. >> >> You can set the mark, move somewhere else, type stuff there, and return >> using C-x C-x, again typing stuff there, without destroying anything you >> have written. >> >> The mark is, well, a _mark_. Something you can set temporarily easily, >> later to return. > > Do you really use this with t-t-m? > > There is a simple principle wrt t-t-m: when the region is active then > keys change their usual meaning. Those "keys" that operate on a region of text, like query-replace. Different kettle of fish. > With delete-selection-mode this includes and other > self-inserting keys in addition to existing keys that already have a > special meaning in t-m-m. Normal text entry is affected, yes. -- David Kastrup