From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: line-move-visual Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:57:06 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87wru0tn4d.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <089883ee-0a63-4cb4-a0ec-d2fe4e71cc03@y18g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <87wruco5yq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87wrubfd8p.fsf@rapttech.com.au> <848w6ndwn0.fsf@cs.bham.ac.uk> <87d3vx5cku.fsf@gmail.com> <87bpbcrdk5.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291834845 27414 80.91.229.12 (8 Dec 2010 19:00:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 19:00:45 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 20:00:39 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQPFj-0003fn-C7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:00:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36475 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQPFi-0002TM-Nv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 14:00:34 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!newsserver.news.garr.it!kanaga.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool3.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs,comp.lang.lisp X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:lNFaEw3Tpzb7YvoqfihIP5ceE20= Original-Lines: 25 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Jun 2010 15:57:10 CEST Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: e26cd35c.newsspool2.arcor-online.net Original-X-Trace: DXC=OSWA9D=VPdTV; Ef1`Jk54\A9EHlD; 3YcR4Fo<]lROoRQ8kF5MOK`al0oRZkNESEPT0?_P7HD4gEh List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:75842 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> Every time I narrowed down to that issue in this thread, the participants >> have fallen silent (first Xah Lee then Tim Cross, Alan Mackenzie and Stefan >> himself). I guess there is no good answer to it. > > I did give you the answer: I tried it and found to my surprise that I > liked it, so I suggested it and people said "no way", then they tried > it and some people hated it, while others really liked it. > > So in the end it was a judgment call, and I decided that the added > convenience of being able to deal with very-long-lines without having > to change mode was more important. I.e. I decided that case 3 (in my > earlier long post about it) was less common and less important. I should think that changing to logical mode when recording and replaying macros would be an improvement. I can't imagine anybody wanting visual mode in that case. There is already one such change: vertical movement does not use vscroll in order to go smoothly through vertical material when macro recording or playback is active. -- David Kastrup