From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:50:51 -0400 Message-ID: <87wrrue9sk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.30901.687000.971249@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.47167.15000.439215@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87fwys7qao.fsf@telefonica.net> <87hbj8qvd9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87iq3k68ye.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <874of466rj.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pqxsbrie.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87k4nv7t72.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <19556.28233.750000.798692@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87aaoqjzge.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87mxsqzfam.fsf@telefonica.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281718265 13553 80.91.229.12 (13 Aug 2010 16:51:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:51:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 13 18:51:04 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OjxTB-0003wj-JL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:51:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57533 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OjxTB-0005JA-70 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:51:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=34222 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OjxT4-0005IJ-IJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:50:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OjxT3-0007i2-BC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:50:54 -0400 Original-Received: from pantheon-po23.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.117]:59820) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OjxT3-0007hp-9i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:50:53 -0400 Original-Received: from furry (dhcp128036014221.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.221]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po23.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o7DGoqZx028051 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:50:52 -0400 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3702616D402; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:50:52 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87mxsqzfam.fsf@telefonica.net> (=?utf-8?Q?=22=C3=93scar?= Fuentes"'s message of "Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:46:25 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128623 Archived-At: =C3=93scar Fuentes writes: > It is Emacs who is behaving idiosyncratically in Windows, so the fix > must come from Emacs, not from a system-wide change. The current standard is used on all platforms: the key labelled "Alt" on the keyboard is handled internally by Emacs as Meta. If this is an idiosyncracy, it is a very simple, uniform, and consistently-applied one. I don't see a well-reasoned argument for deviating from it specifically for the Windows port, given that the de-facto desktop standards (such as the use of Alt-TAB for window switching) are identical between Windows and modern UNIX-like systems such as GNU/Linux.