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From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Merging Finder into package mechanism
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 21:44:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wrranqfv.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8739tyxoe5.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Sun, 29 Aug 2010 00:38:10 +0100")

Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org> writes:

>> package.el has a variable `package--builtins-base' which defines
>> packages built into Emacs.  This is similar, but not identical, to the
>> Finder conception of a package.  I would like to remove the discrepancy.
>
> I think Keywords should be additional package attribute
> along with Name, Version, Brief description, Long description.

There should definitely be a way to search packages by keyword, but I am
not sure if setting them as package attributes is necessary.  I am
experimenting with a few different approaches, such as storing a
keyword-to-package map in the repository.

>> Eventually, finder-by-keyword should allow searching for elpa packages
>> as well as built-in packages.
>
> Finder scans local files to collect package information, so it could
> also connect to elpa.gnu.org, but this requires Internet access during
> `make finder-data'.

I don't think that's necessary.  We can simply have `make finder-data'
collect information about built-in packages.  During
`package-initialize' (usually called at startup), Emacs can supplement
the data in finder-inf.el using cached information about elpa.gnu.org
packages.  During `package-refresh-contents', when Emacs connects to
elpa.gnu.org, it can update this information.

>> The proposed technical steps are as follows.  First, merge
>> `finder-package-info' and `package--builtins-base' into a single
>> variable.  This is a backward-incompatible change, but I think that's
>> acceptable, since third-party code is unlikely to make use of
>> `finder-package-info'.
>
> Does this mean that `list-packages' will list all Emacs built-in
> packages (in addition to elpa packages)?  Maybe not bad, after all.

Yeah.  There's a lot of built-in packages (around 400), so we should
probably also add a toggle to hide them.



  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-29  1:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-28 20:08 Merging Finder into package mechanism Chong Yidong
2010-08-28 20:34 ` Drew Adams
2010-08-28 23:38 ` Juri Linkov
2010-08-29  1:44   ` Chong Yidong [this message]
2010-08-31  0:27     ` Juri Linkov
2010-08-31  1:29       ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-31 22:39         ` Juri Linkov
2010-09-01  6:54           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-01 22:05             ` Juri Linkov
2010-09-02  7:54               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-03 18:30           ` Chong Yidong
2010-09-03 20:45             ` Juri Linkov
2010-08-30  0:46 ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-31  0:27   ` Juri Linkov
2010-08-31  1:42     ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-31 22:43       ` Juri Linkov
2010-10-30 20:59 ` Drew Adams
2010-10-31  0:23   ` Chong Yidong
2010-10-31 22:29     ` Drew Adams
2010-11-01 16:11       ` Chong Yidong
2010-11-01 17:51         ` Drew Adams
2010-11-01 18:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-01 22:03             ` Drew Adams
2010-11-02  3:54               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-01 21:31           ` Chong Yidong
2010-11-01 22:03             ` Drew Adams

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